Summary of this topic, from my page 1 to my page 7.
To whom it may concern,
I could use your input on a challenge that I am about to take, if you believe in it, please fill free to interact.
If you do not believe in it, please fill free to start your own topic :The Department of Negative Out of Body Possibilities.
Please check out my challenge down below.
----- Original Message -----From: Jeff Wagg, James Randi Educational Foundation
To: Tim Brewer ; Alison Smith
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 1:52 PM
Subject: Re: Communications
I don't know what "advance thinking and action driven electrical thought out of body afterlife people" is or are.
Are you saying you can make the contact buzzer work without touching it?
Jeff Wagg
JREF
On 5/20/07, Tim Brewer <tbrewer003@woh.rr.com> wroteear Jeff Wagg,
*It is not a buzzer, but a light that comes on,*and that is only because I have only tried it with a light, but I suppose you could set it up to be used with a buzzer as well, and yes, I have had it work before, I just didn't think you were concerned about past events with*my experiments, so I tried not to bring that up.Science base their input in the fact that energy can not be made, destroyed, it can only*change form, so with that being the case. I want to prove that humans after they die, do have the ability to contact us through devises like this, but it can only work if we can educate them first on this*possibility. I once watched**one of your challenges were*a man tried to prove that he could alter a compass with thought alone, I would like to think my challenge is better, just because it is based on the fact that I do not even have to be anywhere near the machine when it works the way I say it will work. I would like the opportunity to have a monitor near by, only as a way to continue to send messages to the afterlife, as instructional information only.**
Please feel free to ask more questions if you would like.*Thank you,Tim*
I'm not accepting anything, I just wanted to be clear on what your claim was. You may apply now, and if you meet the criteria, your claim will be accepted.
Jeff Wagg
JREF
Thank you Jeff Wagg,*I appreciate your help in this matter, and now I will start getting things in order to be in a position to meet the criteria, and the challenge as well.*
Thank you,
Tim
___________________________________________________________________________________________________
When you think about my topic, you might want to think outside the box.
Exactly what is 'Thinking Outside the Box'?
Outside the Box
Thinking outside the box requires different attributes that include:
Willingness to take new perspectives to day-to-day work.
Openness to do different things and to do things differently.
Focusing on the value of finding new ideas and acting on them.
Striving to create value in new ways.
Listening to others.
Supporting and respecting others when they come up with new ideas.
Out-of-the box thinking requires an openness to new ways of seeing the world and a willingness to explore. Out-of-the box thinkers know that new ideas need nurturing and support. They also know that having an idea is good but acting on it is more important. Results are what count!
http://www.canadaone.com/ezine/april..._thinking.html
"Mmmmm, impressive thinking, pushing back the boundaries etc etc."
BarryMK
___________________________________________________________________________________________________
"Science does not have all the answers to everything, but it is the only logical tool we can use at the moment - after science it them becomes a belief - an act of faith (again which might be right, I cannot discount anything, which includes this view being wrong/right - its trying to be objective with the beliefs and present attitude that I have been brought up with."
Gary Panic
___________________________________________________________________________________________________
"as to out of the box thinking
I'd like to think that I can be objective and think outside of my own preset values.. but as long as the person asking me to think outside of this - can be objective and also think inside the box (or at least look at there view from inside and outside of th e box)
if they are trying to be objective and they only think outside of the box - then this isn't going to work
90% of the time things are inside of the box - I drive to work - I don't drive to work but try doing it fromt he rear seat - etc
driving to work means that I seat behind the steering wheel and etc ...."
Gary Panic
__________________________________________________________________________________________________
"The irrationality of a thing is no argument against its existence, rather a condition of it. ~Friedrich Nietzsche~"
"To disagree with three-fourths of the British public is one of the first requisites of sanity. ~Oscar Wilde~"
KalelGmoon
___________________________________________________________________________________________________
"I cast him down as an apostate and irredeemable infidel."
Barry MK
___________________________________________________________________________________________________
"I understand. I even took the time to understand because I wanted to. It is certainly in my best interest to understand because if I find myself dead and still thinking I want to know what my options are."
Other Forum, same topic
__________________________________________________________________________________________________
"I'm up to my eyeballs in "real world" activity and don't have any time for
this.
Anyway, just happy to keep your thread "alive".
Wayne Ryan
___________________________________________________________________________________________________
"How do you think the Sun survives? and even that will eventually die out"
Rich
Guest
"Energy can not be made."
Science
"The sun can not make energy, because the energy was already there!
What science assumes of the energy, we call the Sun, might be wrong as well.
Different topic, and I am busy enough, just wanted to add that, if some future Tim Brewer wants to start a topic on that, after my free idea option happens.
Example, if science does not know what is inside energy, like Orbs, then that could cover the sun as well!
A Question to ask afterlife in the future.
Have you ever been to the sun and back?
What was it like?
Better visuals?
Trying to get an Orb tan?
Thought that was were heaven was?
Was it?
Orb Mistakes for Dummies!
Tim Brewer
Energy can not be destroyed, it can change form, and it can not be made. You live in energy. We generate energy, for the energy that you are.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
original answer:
Energy spreads out, it never goes out.
All the energy that the sun has ever made is in that space, is still going to be there, just spread out in layers of time and space, and time can be measured.
Out of Body Afterlife people would have no problem's living in this type of environment.
Introvert reality world everyday, seeing, thinking and dreaming
It takes a lot of energy to make a human work, but it don't take a lot for an after life to survive either.
Thank you for reading my thoughts,
Tim
____________________________________________________________________________________________________
"in response to energy cannot be destroy only changed - this is correct
but you seem to miss some basics , as the Body dies to reverts back to compost, and feeds the planet , the brains energy is just a by product of the Body , its a bit like saying I have turned on a light (torch) I have created light and if I switch it off the light will carry on , fraid not the light is a product of the energy stored in a battery - this does not mean there is no after life, but it doesn't mean there is either
At the end of the day we are all worm food or carbon 12.... (stardust)
Its fine to have an alternative view, and you may be correct, but you may also be wrong - this is called faith - If you know that a religion is true and everything in it is 100% correct then there is no room for doubt - which goes against all religions , they ask you to accept that they are correct and everyone else is wrong , as far as I am aware only a very few know what actual happens
The Governor JC. Mohammed - as he had instructions from the management(*although there maybe a chance that he copied one or two of these wrong )
The Dahi Lama(Hope I spell this right) after this we are all guessing
and these 3 I have mentioned could of been high on drugs for all we know.. and we are relying on text that is at best dodgey (christian text anyway) and open to interpretation (typo) - when the next coming happens , someone should tape his/her every word , even then people will miss quote phrases.
Science does not have the answers to everything , but it is impartial and relies on physical laws - and as such is measurable - do we know all of the science on everything not by half ...
Your posts seem to be done with the best intentions , but you seem to get a bit jumpy when you are dismissed as a bit of a fruit cake --
you you check on some of the psots about Mohammed , the poster there also got some flack, but took it on the chin - explained what he was doing and was recepetive to comments - (They ignored them if they were a bit aggressive) - and most people who responded wished Him(I think it was a man) all the best , even though they probably though he was a fruit loop
he accepted there wishes gracefully - this might of been because he was a Brit - where religion,politics re more intertwined with other views (this is not me having a poke at the Yanks) - this is the problem with 2 party politic , the UK has 3 major parties with a hand fully of independent parties
I ramble"
Gary Panic
____________________________________________________________________________________________________
"So, like the suns energy you're gonna end up lost in space?"
Rich
Guest
____________________________________________________________________________________________________
Summary of this topic, from my page 1 to page 7.
It never hurts to review your free back up plan.
Regardless what page or color you are on!
