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Old 12-05-2017, 06:43 AM   #1
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Best help for depression

How can you help a depressed friend? My friend is always presenting these negative outlooks in life and I feel that these are signs of depression. I am afraid that he might do something harmful to himself.

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Old 12-05-2017, 07:22 AM   #2
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Re: Best help for depression

Have him go see a psychologist or doctor to determine if it's 'negative outlooks in life' (which is just being negative) or actual depression - there is a distinct difference.

If it's depression, he'll need appropriate treatment - depression can be caused by chemical imbalances in the brain, personality disorders, or even life events, and each cause needs to be handled differently.

Also, don't pass on that 'Depressed? Just go outside!' crap, because all that does is reinforce the misguided belief that depression is just being sad. It reinforces the stigma the disease already has, and causes depressed people to NOT seek help by making them feel even worse (basically, you're telling them to grow up and get over it).

Others will take it from here - I normally am unwilling to contribute to this site, but I couldn't let this one pass.
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Old 12-05-2017, 05:34 PM   #3
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Re: Best help for depression

you can help him by supporting him and by listening to him always. you can also accompany him to a therapist

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Re: Best help for depression

The question is: is it primary or secondary depression. Treatments are contingent on that.
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Old 12-05-2017, 10:07 PM   #5
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Re: Best help for depression

Physical exercise is one of the best treatments for both depression and negativity.
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Old 12-06-2017, 03:46 AM   #6
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Re: Best help for depression

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The question is: is it primary or secondary depression. Treatments are contingent on that.
What's the difference between primary and secondary depression?

Anyway, I also sent him this article hoping he can get some positive things here.
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Old 12-06-2017, 04:50 AM   #7
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Re: Best help for depression

Terrible link. It completely ignores the fact that chronic depression tends to stem from medical or psychological conditions and not 'feeling bad about yourself'.

Articles like that just make the stigma that much worse. And the advice it gives will ONLY help if the depression stems from life events and has no underlying cause.

Would you tell someone with a broken leg to just tough it out and go walking? Someone with a toothache to just try eating different food and the toothache will go away? Then why are you telling someone who could well have a life-threatening medical condition to just go outside and play? If his depression is caused by something other than 'just being sad', all that will do is convince him that 'something is wrong' with him and make the depression that much worse.

First step is to see a professional to see what the CAUSE of the depression is, not send him meaningless and possibly harmful mumbo-jumbo.

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What's the difference between primary and secondary depression?
A quick Google search would provide you a wealth of information on the subject, but in general:

Primary depression exists on its own and is not the result of another medical or psychiatric condition. It can also be its own psychological or psychiatric issue, such as major depressive disorder. Anti-depressants are sometimes used to treat this kind of depression, as one of the causes is the chemical imbalance in the brain I mentioned previously. Other times, it requires extensive psychiatric or psychological therapy, especially if (as in my case) it's tied to another major personality disorder.

Secondary depression is caused by something else - major negative life events, major diseases such as cancer, psychiatric conditions like schizophrenia, etc. The primary thing is that this was CAUSED, as opposed to happening on its own. This is the type that can often be handled with changing your routine and getting some counseling.

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Re: Best help for depression

I agree, let him see a professional
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Re: Best help for depression

Talk therapy involves discussing your problems and how you feel with a trained therapist. Your therapist can help you detect patterns of thought or behavior that contribute to your depression. You may be given homework, such as tracking your moods or writing in journals. This will help you to continue your treatment outside of appointments. Your therapist can also teach you exercises to reduce stress and anxiety, and help you understand your illness.

A therapist can also help you create strategies to identify and avoid any triggers that exacerbate your depression. They can also help you develop coping mechanisms for when you experience these triggers.

Talk therapy may resolve temporary or mild depression. It can often treat severe depression, but not without other treatments such as medication.
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Re: Best help for depression

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I agree, let him see a professional
Yes, i agree. The good doctor should help. But do not forget to support your friend and let them feel that they're not alone
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Re: Best help for depression

Whenever I feel depressed, I go to the gym and sweat it out. I also hang out with my family and friends. Talking to someone and sharing your thoughts can really help you release the sadness.
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Re: Best help for depression

Fully agree about gym, it always helps. Also, when I was struggling with depression I stopped smoking and began to feel better. Iíve read on VapingDaily that nicotine contributes to mood disorders, so if you smoke you probably should quit.
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Re: Best help for depression

I suffered from Secondary Depression about 8 years ago when my marriage broke up, I'd been in a Mental Breakdown before the break up but hadn't realised it, and this contributed to the break up.

I had to first recognise the problem I had and admit it, this was a hard step and took a close friend to prompt me into action..

I sought counselling, and my sister suggested I started Partner dancing, this greatly helped with my recovery and years later I am still dancing, I have a new life with a new partner and I am very happy...
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Re: Best help for depression

I was diagnosed with some form of chronic, serious depression when I was 12. (Probably at least in part because you can't be diagnosed with borderline personality disorder until you're 18.) I spent many, many years in counseling after that.

The hardest part was my dad spending the next several years swearing that depression (any mental issue, actually, including PTSD) was just mental weakness and by GOD he wasn't going to raise some weakling. He did eventually come around, but it was 30 years later, after he started suffering panic attacks and night terrors due to his cancer. Still, better late than never.
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Re: Best help for depression

It's amazing how hard it is for older generations to come to terms with how chemicals work and how far we've come with science. I'm glad he was able to come to terms and understand how it works. I'm sorry that it took his own issues for it to manifest.

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