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I can see his point. Horrible that someone from such a diverse genetic background would ever be allowed into the Royal family.
 

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Diverse genetic background? Crap, crap, and DOUBLE crap. There are already so many dotted lines in royal family trees now that what little diversity Meghan adds won't make one jot or tittle of difference.

Why do you suppose that Diana and Kate were so welcome? New genes, new blood, helped to thin out the inbreeding.
 

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Imagine if they have kids, they'll come out ready tanned, but worse than that, they may not speak correct English. They may speak American.
Imagine How awful that would be.

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'ready tanned, but worse than that' - WORSE? Are you serious? What's this about - race bashing? So what if complexion not peaches and cream? And the 'hooker' slur is just plain disrespectful and uncalled for.
 

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Apologies June7, I really wasn’t trying to dig a barb in her but rather imply it was he that went slumming and fooled around and fell in love. My intent was to get a rise out of our class-conscious twit.

As for dealing with ColinEssex, it is best to keep in mind the old addage about wrestling with pigs; the pig likes it, YOU get dirty.
 

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From an article I had the misfortune of reading this morning:
”Prince Harry’s kids will be Americans. What if one grows up to be president and is in line for the throne at the same time? Brits are playing long-ball here … They want America back and this is how they’ll do it,”
 

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Of course, NG, that headline sounds like something straight out of the tabloids. Harry and Meghan's kids could ONLY be president if (a) she retains U.S. citizenship; (b) they are born in the USA; (c) the kids never take dual citizenship. But then (d) some of us old codgers are not likely to find out because they ALSO have to be 35 years old to qualify. Therefore, it is a moot point for me.

June7 - when dealing with Colin Essex, you have to be aware that he has many years of trolling experience, though I believe he finally moved away from the bridge. Let's just say that in this branch of the forum, he has found a home where he can go fishing to see what bites.
 

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Too true Doc and as my ILoveAllThingsBritish father in law has told me: “Prince Henry (Harry) is so far down the line in the order of assertion to the crown...” I try to act like I am interested but my mind wanders to Game of Thrones like events where whole blood lines are removed in one fell swoop. Not that I want that to happen, I would just like to mention it to him and watch his eyes roll!

I will just be glad when the press finds something else to bore me with. Soon I will be back in Italy and I won’t be exposed to all this *stuff* and I can concern myself with more important issues like which vintage will go best with what I am ordering from the menu...
 

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more important issues like which vintage will go best with what I am ordering from the menu...

I am not a wine drinker to speak of. Would Tuesday have been a good vintage?

To be honest, when eating Cajun-style boiled shrimp or crawfish (crayfish to some), wine not on the menu. But beer? That's another story.
 

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Wine with crayfish is like an elevator in an out-house, it just don’t work. Beer is the only acceptable libation. Good call!
 

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Although...

I did some research. Crawdads go with beer, but if you are being fancy-schmancy about it, there is some suggestion that ecrevisse (the proper French name) pairs with chardonnay. But probably not the broiled-in-hot-pepper variety of ecrevisse.
 

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Imagine if they have kids, they'll come out ready tanned, but worse than that, they may not speak correct English. They may speak American.
Imagine How awful that would be.

Col

Glad we can agree that no one in England is assured a decent education, even the royals.
 

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...who fits in with Harry's favorite charities.
Speaking of charities, I watched the BBC version of the Royal wedding. It was literally 5 hours of talking about charities with the occasional person of color talking about white privilege in the UK. It was amazing.
 

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I understand the German reporters were obsessed with Meghan's racial mix and couldn't leave it alone. Sort of like they had never even SEEN a person of African heritage. I wonder if that report was a member of the National Socialist party?
 

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I understand the German reporters were obsessed with Meghan's racial mix and couldn't leave it alone. Sort of like they had never even SEEN a person of African heritage. I wonder if that report was a member of the National Socialist party?

I never saw a black person till I was aged about 10 when one rolled up at our school. It was unheard of at that time

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It is unfortunate that I must agree that there were places in the USA where black faces were rare. It is even more unfortunate that some of those places were in the north of the USA - in cities formerly settled by immigrants from Germany, Austria, Norway, Sweden, and a few of the Slavic nations.

For our European friends, I wonder if the influx of black people increased as Islam in Africa became more militant, causing more refugees to emigrate. I don't know and am speculating because that level of detail is not visible to me from this side of the pond. Does any European member care to comment?
 

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I live in the West Midlands of the UK, this is a very multi racial county, the town I live in Walsall, was mentioned by Politicians as being the most cultrally diverse town and the most cultrally segmented town in the whole of the UK.

So could I tell you if more African Immigrants have come to my town / County, honest answer I have no idea as they have been here for at least 40 to 50 years already..
 

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I see on the news that Trump has decreed that all illegal Mexican children be separated from their families. They are kept in caged areas (as seen on BBC news) there are thousands of them.
What's next one asks, gas chambers? I thought he had a wall built to keep these nasty horrid people out.

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It is even more unfortunate that some of those places were in the north of the USA - in cities formerly settled by immigrants from Germany, Austria, Norway, Sweden, and a few of the Slavic nations.

Does any European member care to comment?

Yes...

Could climate be a Factor?

I was at an auction with Robert in the middle of the summer, a stinking hot baking heat day!

The auction took place in a shed with a corrugated iron roof which just added to the oppressive heat.

Robert, a Nigerian just stood there unfazed looking completely comfortable.

I wasn't having that! I said it's alright for you Robert, you like the heat but you just wait for the winter, I'll be comfortable and you'll be freezing! No I won't he said, I will be in Nigeria!

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ColinEssex said:
I see on the news that Trump has decreed that all illegal Mexican children be separated from their families.

Yes, this is happening, but not necessarily just Mexican children. All countries that come through Mexico as their path to the USA. This includes various nations like Nicaragua, Honduras, Ecuador, Panama, etc. - Central and South America too.

It is happening because Trump is enforcing various USA immigration laws by filing criminal charges of illegal immigration against the parents, which means they get sent to a jail. But the minors aren't being charged so no jail for them. But that leaves two other very unpleasant choices: (a) leave them roaming the streets where they could be recruited by pimps or captured by human traffickers or (b) keep them off the streets in facilities that, yes, are a type of detention. They aren't here legally either.

People in this country don't like it either, but I am (grudgingly) on Trump's side in this issue for a simple reason. In his oath of office, he swore to enforce and support the laws of the USA. This detention of children in a non-jail facility is doing that.

At every news conference where this comes up, the Trump zero-tolerance policy is clear, but so is his continued jab at Congress. THEY make the laws; he has sworn to enforce them. He is doing exactly that. He has made it clear many times that if Congress would act to change the laws, he would enforce the new laws.

Last year, when he announced his crackdown on illegals, he suspended his zero-tolerance policies for DACA for a couple of months and practically begged Congress to change that law - but they did not. This topic has come up again and again - that he does not make law and that it is up to Congress to make changes. So far, they can't agree on what to do. Trump is not blameless but he doesn't have blame for this sad situation totally on his shoulders.

I don't know how much of that makes it over the pond, but the truth is that the kids are here illegally and we are trying to stop them, send them back to where they originated, and stop the flow of people who drain our country of resources needed for our own poor people. The zero-tolerance policy is an attempt to make it clear to those who have not gotten here yet that their choice was bad. The recent policy shift on tightening asylum law is also intended to make people think twice before coming here.

Col, I know you've mentioned this theme yourself many times. The USA and the UK may have different approaches but they are both facing the same problem. Too many immigrants, not enough resources, and the newly arrived people do not quickly pay back enough in taxes to offset at least some of the cost of letting them stay.
 

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