A Democratic Mandate? (1 Viewer)

jsanders · Nov 8, 2006

Well the Demos have wrestled quite a bit of control from the Repubs.

Now that the Repub mandate is clearly broken, and it is clear that this election was about cleaning house, not fresh new ideas or direction from the Demos.

The Demos need to reframe the national debate, and create a new platform as well.

Yesterday I was talking to a Repub in the cigar store, I made a comment about the fisheries being overtaxed and that we are facing imminent danger of a collapse in the world’s supply of fish. His comment was that it was a scare tactic from the liberals and brought up global warning.

How did the Demos let the Repubs make conservation a political issue? We must get rid of that irrational stigma “liberal” it is used like a dirty word to describe anyone who would dare to question Bush or his spend us into oblivion policies.

Now is the time to stop attacking the Repubs and start thinking about where we are going to take the country.

What a shame it would be, to kick out the criminals and replace them with idiots.

KenHigg · Nov 8, 2006

Blah blah blah... Repubs, Dems.... Who really cares....

Rich · Nov 8, 2006

KenHigg said:
Who really cares....

The 75,000 innocent dead souls since Bush came to power

jsanders · Nov 8, 2006

Rich said:
The 75,000 innocent dead souls since Bush came to power

Actually I suspect it would be their families.

Rich · Nov 8, 2006

jsanders said:
Actually I suspect it would be their families.

Ah I see, so you no longer believe that the soul lingers on for eternity

jsanders · Nov 8, 2006

Rich said:
Ah I see, so you no longer believe that the soul lingers on for eternity

The point is we need to look forward to some solutions, not continue on with business as usual.

Ron_dK · Nov 8, 2006

jsanders said:
The Demos need to reframe the national debate, and create a new platform as well.

Is there any site where free demo's can be downloaded ?

jsanders · Nov 8, 2006

rak said:
Is there any site where free demo's can be downloaded ?

http://www.democrats.org/

Click here for enlightenment.

Brianwarnock · Nov 8, 2006

Rich said:
Ah I see, so you no longer believe that the soul lingers on for eternity

Religious families would believe that their loved one's souls had gone to a better life and (the soul) would thus have reason to complain, only the people left behind feel sorrow at the loss.

Brian

FoFa · Nov 8, 2006

jsanders said:
The point is we need to look forward to some solutions, not continue on with business as usual.

Same exact thing back when Clinton was a lame duck and the republicans took over. Remember all the NEW faces that were going to change everything?
Seems to me that once the new ones get in, they get quickly beaten down by the old ones, and nothing really changes.
I think we need to get rid of the Stright Ticket for voting so we can get something beside repubs or demos in there, shake things up a little.
But one thing you also fail to understand, that those in the house and Senate, are suppose to be more concerned with their local issues than the nation as a whole. After all, that is where their votes come from.

FoFa · Nov 8, 2006

jsanders said:
How did the Demos let the Repubs make conservation a political issue? We must get rid of that irrational stigma “liberal” it is used like a dirty word to describe anyone who would dare to question Bush or his spend us into oblivion policies.

The demos did it themselves. By causing big layoffs and job cutbacks in the guise of conservation.
So the repubs took it to the extrem the other way. Create more jobs, but the environment pays some what. I don't think any where near as bad as the libs make it out how ever.
Remember the guy (going on memory here) in california who could not farm his land because some rat lived there? (ok I am making that sound a tad more harsh, but not much if memory serves). So it seems like we are either extrem left, right and no one seems to figure out a way to center that whole issue. Both parties are as guilty as the other.
Oh! And of course you stinking liberals would like to get rid of that stigma

statsman · Nov 9, 2006

Brianwarnock said:
Religious families would believe that their loved one's souls had gone to a better life and (the soul) would thus have reason to complain, only the people left behind feel sorrow at the loss.

Brian

Without trying to insult anyones beliefs or to denegrate those who have died, I think the point is that persons who have died have severly reduced abilities to influence politics.
Except in certain counties in Texas where a suprizing number of dead people manage to vote.

Rich · Nov 9, 2006

statsman said:
Except in certain counties in Texas where a suprizing number of dead people manage to vote.

jsanders · Nov 9, 2006

statsman said:
Without trying to insult anyones beliefs or to denegrate those who have died, I think the point is that persons who have died have severly reduced abilities to influence politics.
Except in certain counties in Texas where a suprizing number of dead people manage to vote.

Never underestimate those Texans. They were the group most responsible for the fall of the Nazis and the Nipponese.

Matt Greatorex · Nov 9, 2006

statsman said:
Except in certain counties in Texas where a suprizing number of dead people manage to vote.

... but the US don't hold the monopoly on it

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20060926/dead_voting_060926?s_name=&no_ads=

Rich · Nov 9, 2006

jsanders said:
They were the group most responsible for the fall of the Nazis and the Nipponese.

jsanders · Nov 9, 2006

Rich said:

Not quite up to your standards is it?

In case you wonder how i figure that..Oil

statsman · Nov 11, 2006

Matt Greatorex said:
... but the US don't hold the monopoly on it
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20060926/dead_voting_060926?s_name=&no_ads=

Yes, but they've turned it into an art form.

Kraj · Nov 13, 2006

Personally, I think the Democrats' mission at the moment is less a matter of policy changes and more a matter of fixing the huge political schism the Republicans have created. Yes, the Dems have done their share to contribute to political polarizing, but Bush's administration - and the Republican party by extention - have based nearly their entire strategy on increasingly polarizing the voters and it's hurting the country.

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