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Old 04-08-2019, 10:09 AM   #2251
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The issue with Insulin is because three main suppliers are involved in, what is in effect, a trust. They've been paying off politicians to look the other way to allow them to continue in this horrid fashion. They are a shining example of why you need competition in a free market, not a small group who lock in production of a vital necessity.

They are a poster child for "Here's why you don't let ONE group dictate supply".
Say that again and the TRUTH shall set you FREE...

But we are getting off topic...jus sayin'

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Old 04-08-2019, 10:43 AM   #2252
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does the UK have high paid specialists or not?
Yes the UK does have plenty of highly qualified specialists both in the NHS and private medicine. Mick Jagger has homes in several countries and IIRC he doesn't live in the UK for most of the year. With his wealth, he wouldn't use the NHS anyway
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Old 04-08-2019, 11:13 AM   #2253
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With his wealth, he wouldn't use the NHS anyway
So should we use UK NHS model worldwide regardless of your wealth? (Forced)

That way the world would have health care for all, but most of us would die in line?

Not to mention zero incentive to go to an 8 year college to become a specialist.
Doctors are not always in it for altruism. So the profession would suffer, for lack of talent.

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Old 04-08-2019, 02:31 PM   #2254
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The NHS model does mean that everybody gets free healthcare at the point of need. For the majority of the population the system works well. Like any other system its far from perfect. Therefore some with high incomes go private. Same with schooling.
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Old 04-09-2019, 02:42 PM   #2256
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But we are getting off topic...jus sayin'
Not at all. For most issues with gun violence, if proper mental heath screening was available and treatment was not socially stigmatized, most of the violence would not exist.

Currently, a depressed individual is often stigmatized at school or work. Same with ADHD, and a host of other issues. As people cannot see some obvious medical issue they are not treated well. Would that Nikolas Cruz have been treated for his issues rather than be in headlines.
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Old 04-12-2019, 01:19 PM   #2257
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Re: Shootings in US schools

Talking of Mr Trump. Why, when he was campaigning for presidency, he thought Wikileaks was brilliant and referred to leaked emails that were derogatory to Mrs Clinton. He also said he loved Wikileaks.
But now, he says he never heard of it and it means nothing to him.

Has he a memory problem? Or just a liar.

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Old 04-12-2019, 07:08 PM   #2258
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Re: Shootings in US schools

Colin, Trump is a situational politician. (He's learning the government game quite well.)

I have said it before and I'll say it again. When I voted for president this time around, I had to hold my nose with one hand and hope to suppress the gag reflex. The only worse choice than Donald Trump was Hillary Clinton. I want to say that they were bottom-of-the-barrel choices but I'm afraid I'll jinx the next election.

As an aside, though, that "insulin trust" is under Congressional scrutiny now and the four bosses who run the insulin-maker companies are probably finding out about public spotlights. One reason that Hillary was worse than Donald is that "big pharma" was supporting Hillary in hopes that she would expand Obamacare and let them overcharge by the ton for medicines that would be paid by soaking taxpayers. (The evidence for that drug-company influence is in the public portion of the records of the Clinton Foundation.)
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Old 04-17-2019, 10:30 AM   #2259
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Re: Shootings in US schools

I think it's fair to say that most politicians say what they think you want to hear and if necessary exaggerate the truth (if there is any). It certainly happens in the UK.
We were told if we vote to leave the EU, the 350 million per week we pay in could be spent on the NHS. A) that's not true and B) we have to pay 38 BILLION as a 'divorce' settlement - assuming everyone can agree on the exit conditions.
Total waste of time and money.

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Old 04-17-2019, 12:04 PM   #2260
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I'll have to take your word for it on the EU "divorce" because we don't see the daily discussions that much here in the USA. But I am sure that the only folks who will make any money off the deal are the politicians and the lawyers.
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Re: Shootings in US schools

Col,

Same is true for the Media. Most think of "News" as some type of public service or utility. They forget they PAY to hear what they want, and "Journalists" provide what they are paid to spread. Often this is material that would server your garden better than you when spread about.

This is also why thousands can die with little notice, but let a "GUN" be involved and it becomes "NEWS".
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Re: Shootings in US schools

*Yawn* - yet again the same boring mass shootings in the USA. The reason for my post is the same old rhetoric from OrangeMan, the same as Obama, the same as GWB. The difference being is that OrangeMan had his statue of a wife next to him.
a) does she ever speak? Never heard her utter a word.

b) why is she there? Just waiting for him to die to inherit the billions?

Bugger-all will be done and we await and place bets where the next mass shootings will be. Only 20 killed in El Paso, the BBC news said that puts it in 8th place so a pretty weak effort really.

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Col, you are slipping. That was so weak, so terribly lame, that I can't even be bothered to spar with you.

Must be that you are getting old or something.
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Col, you are slipping. That was so weak, so terribly lame, that I can't even be bothered to spar with you.

Must be that you are getting old or something.
Doc, after what is it? 20 odd years of these forums and countless dozens of mass shootings in the USA, I can't think of anything new to say.

Sorry to have disappointed you.

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