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Thank you for replying to my last post I had hoped that that a definitive answer based on the insurance conditions would be possible , but I guess not.
I won't pursue it on this thread as there are two other threads on social medicine v insurance based.

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You keep harping on Bill Gates as your poster child for greed. As far as I can tell he is donating his vast fortune to charity? Is that a bad thing? Also most of us use Microsoft products everyday but we do not have to. There are Google apps, Linux, and more. I think envy really needs to be addressed.

Guys, you got me all wrong...

I take it none of you have even seen the show I was referring to... the character I was referring to in the show is Rich yes, but I only referenced Bill Gates, because in the show the character invented a computer software company that revolutionized the way people and the world worked, hence the reference to Bill Gates...

I actually think that Bill, seems to be a decent guy with all the donations he makes, and he has worked hard to get where he is today, and Microsoft employees so I believe are paid pretty well...

I am certainly not envious of rich people, many of them deserve what they have worked for... Branson...Sugar...etc

Some people however do not, such as Investment Bankers...etc... these people bought the world to it's knees, and seemed to have got away with little or no consequences to themselves, hell the very next year they collapsed the worlds economy they were picking up Bonuses for doing such a good job....
 

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Guys, you got me all wrong...

I take it none of you have even seen the show I was referring to... the character I was referring to in the show is Rich yes, but I only referenced Bill Gates, because in the show the character invented a computer software company that revolutionized the way people and the world worked, hence the reference to Bill Gates...

I actually think that Bill, seems to be a decent guy with all the donations he makes, and he has worked hard to get where he is today, and Microsoft employees so I believe are paid pretty well...

I am certainly not envious of rich people, many of them deserve what they have worked for... Branson...Sugar...etc

Some people however do not, such as Investment Bankers...etc... these people bought the world to it's knees, and seemed to have got away with little or no consequences to themselves, hell the very next year they collapsed the worlds economy they were picking up Bonuses for doing such a good job....


I keep changing my mind if I want to get involved ina thread were SCott raising objections at the obvious in equalities in the world, is accused of being jealous. I think scott has more to him than that.

Its not as if wondering if a system of foodstamps and foodbanks in the west for the poor, whilst at the same time producing multi multi billionaires who can choose to dole out money if they feel like being useful with it, is jealousy.

Scott some of your critics don't seem to believe in a system that treats the ill if they are poor. Maybe poor ill people are dismissed as jealous too.

I think it may be fairer if Gates paid his tax - like the little folk do.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...EVERY-YEAR-using-Luxembourg-tax-loophole.html
 
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The problem is that the politics of envy is common amongst socialists in the UK, and Scott has shown some tendencies towards that, not that he is wrong about the bankers and health care, but to condemn all who strive to better themselves as greedy and also to blame Thatcher is wrong.

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Tax avoidance is done by all sensible folk, hence the popularity of ISAs. It is upto governments to set in place laws etc to stop it were it should be stopped.

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Tax avoidance is done by all sensible folk, hence the popularity of ISAs. It is upto governments to set in place laws etc to stop it were it should be stopped.

Brian

Unfortunately, the politicians are owned by the people avoiding the taxes. It's a losing situation until the middle class get fed up and realize they are victimized just as much. They are too busy not realizing that the rich are not protecting their interest by not raising wages, even in the case of middle class business owners. The interest is purely on their own. Scrutinizing the poor and victimizing the rich is their grand scheme.
 

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I keep changing my mind if I want to get involved ina thread were SCott raising objections at the obvious in equalities in the world, is accused of being jealous. I think scott has more to him than that.

Its not as if wondering if a system of foodstamps and foodbanks in the west for the poor, whilst at the same time producing multi multi billionaires who can choose to dole out money if they feel like being useful with it, is jealousy.

Scott some of your critics don't seem to believe in a system that treats the ill if they are poor. Maybe poor ill people are dismissed as jealous too.

I think it may be fairer if Gates paid his tax - like the little folk do.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...EVERY-YEAR-using-Luxembourg-tax-loophole.html

Excuse me, Bill Gates work hard for his millions and as many of your readers have stated, he gives a lot of it away. The problem with the rich is not that they have the money but how they use it. Take George Sorros. He is financing the left in the US to bring about socialist change. Rem, there are only TWO classes in the socialism and that is the RULING class and the WORKING class. If your not in those classes, you dead or dying (in their mind, the faster the better). for those out there that want all those parts of socialism, ask your self this one question. Which class will I be in.\

I think it may be fairer if Gates paid his tax - like the little folk do.

How much do you feel like someone you consider rich would need to pay. 95%, 96, 97,98,99% of what they make or maybe you want to take away their business and make them poor? I am sure a commune can run a high tech business like Microsoft.


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I'm already seeing the barter system come back into play. People are getting fed up with it. To the upper class outt here: when the barter system spreads, you'll no longer see profits. I bet you'll wish you paid your employees their fair share then.

The barter system has never gone away. Also another item that has not gone away is to pay everything in cash. Why? maybe you don't have to pay taxes on the specific item. That is what barter does. Not because people are rich but because the rich( and politicians are rich) keep putting more taxes on everybody.

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Thank you for replying to my last post I had hoped that that a definitive answer based on the insurance conditions would be possible , but I guess not.
I won't pursue it on this thread as there are two other threads on social medicine v insurance based.

Brian

Unfortunately it is not as 'cut-an-dry' as one might think. How long would a policy stay in effect when it had a $1-2 million (which is what most of them where) lifetime limit. Nowdays, that limit has been raised substantially to help cover the higher cost of health care. But in the past, you could get a lot of healthcare for that much money.

I might add that there were cases where the insurance company denied coverage but most of the time, this was the fault of the medical team not coding it the right way. (ex. they would deny a surgery for appendix if it is coded for a broken leg). The example is extreme but true. Also, the insurance companies had to be careful not to deny too much because of litigation. on the other hand, the government does not have to worry about litigation. They have a 'plausible deniability' and will not have any problem with denying coverage. Fortunately, your family was covered.

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I don’t remember all the details, and don’t have time to research it but the essence of the article was that when the Pilgrims at Plymouth Rock were starving it wasn’t from a lack of food. It was that all work, all eat. Well when Pilgrim A decided that he was going to play pickup sticks this week instead of working out in the hot Sun, Pilgrim B said, hey me too. When it finally got down to only Pilgrim Z doing any work the Governor finally said ever man for himself. Then they had enough food. Until reading that article I never did understand why they were starving. Being brought up near that area I knew of all the wild food available.

I would like to apologize, Dick7Access, for the reference to this very article you had already written several hours before. I had not read your posting prior to my posting but I should have. There were no excuses. Now I make it a policy to read all post before I write anything.

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Unfortunately, the politicians are owned by the people avoiding the taxes. It's a losing situation until the middle class get fed up and realize they are victimized just as much. They are too busy not realizing that the rich are not protecting their interest by not raising wages, even in the case of middle class business owners. The interest is purely on their own. Scrutinizing the poor and victimizing the rich is their grand scheme.

I think this was the response to Brian's post."Tax avoidance is done by all sensible folk, hence the popularity of ISAs."

Like all people, even the rich are going to take advantage of any loopholes available. Keep in mind that the tax police (every country) keeps a close watch on these rich people that would try and hide their money. Unlike General Electric (paid no corporate taxes by that used legal loopholes), some of these intentionally try get away with paying no taxes.

Keep in mind that the liberal socialist is as greedy as anyone else. In fact, look at the US and the millions given to a political contributor with a company that went bankrupt making GREEN energy panels.. $750 million bankrupts. Or like AL Gore and all the others that are making a killing selling you the idea of global warming. You pay them for carbon credits whether you know it or not. You liberals are a gullible lot for sure.

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Rem, there are only TWO classes in the socialism and that is the RULING class and the WORKING class. If your not in those classes, you dead or dying (in their mind, the faster the better). for those out there that want all those parts of socialism, ask your self this one question. Which class will I be in.\


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Funny. You just described EXACTLY what is happening already with Capitalism. ;)
 

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You liberals are a gullible lot for sure.

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Liberal? Me? Hardly. I'm just me. I think anyone who is so stuck on one party are the gullible ones. If you agree and vote for everyone and everything one party wants, you're the gullible ones.

The two party system will aid in the fall of this country.
 
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Liberal? Me? Hardly. I'm just me. I think anyone who is so stuck on one party are the gullible ones. If you agree and vote for everyone and everything one party wants, you're the gullible ones.

The two party system will aid in the fall of this country.

Well said!
 
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Funny. You just described EXACTLY what is happening already with Capitalism. ;)

Fortunately we have a chance to change that this NOV. By removing the (liberals--both parties) we can get our country back.In socialism, there is not voting in or out.




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Liberal? Me? Hardly. I'm just me. I think anyone who is so stuck on one party are the gullible ones. If you agree and vote for everyone and everything one party wants, you're the gullible ones.

We had one party super majority and LOOK OBamacare... . that does not work and all the democratic elected voted for it. Not a hard decision here.


The two party system will aid in the fall of this country.
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The two party system will aid in the fall of this country.[/QUOTE] The two party system has worked for 200 years and is the best in the world. It that what Greece had a two party system. OH,,, yeah it is a two party system, the socialist and the labor Unions.

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p.s. Last night some one had a panel of about 15 people. He told the group that someone wanted to give each one of them 10 million dollars free and clear of taxes. the only problem was that they had to leave this country and never come back. They could take who ever they wanted but nobody could ever come back. There was about 7-10 people raised their hands indicating they would be willing to do this. Sad, The first question he ask the panel was who was liberal and who was conservative. The raised hands all came from the liberals. No one from the conservative side raised their hand.
 

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You seem very dead set against "liberals" but liberal in what sense? Domestically? Internationally? Economically? Socially? There are a lot of different factors that come into play on any value or ideal that a label like "liberal" and "conservative" just don't cover. I'm pretty much mixed as most people fall. I prefer "human."
 

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