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Old 07-22-2018, 12:34 PM   #1
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Confused about Rugby

I was watching some televised rugby matches on TV. Got confused about something. Maybe someone can enlighten me.

I watched several times where someone grabbed the ball and, through speed and evasive maneuvers, was able to carry the ball across a particular line. On the screen, there was the immediate acknowledgement of a "try" - but the guy got 5 points for it. What bothers me is that he didn't merely TRY to score... he succeeded. Why don't they call it a "success" ?? Because after all, I'm SURE he did what he wanted to do.

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Old 07-22-2018, 01:27 PM   #2
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Re: Confused about Rugby

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Why don't they call it a "success" ??
because the call it a 'try'.
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Old 07-22-2018, 03:11 PM   #3
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Re: Confused about Rugby

The team can now "try" a "conversion" by kicking the ball over the bar between the posts.

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Old 07-22-2018, 09:38 PM   #4
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Re: Confused about Rugby

English (Queen's OR Trump's) is so strange.

You call it a try when the player succeeds. But Yoda said "There is no 'Try' - there is only do ... or not do."

But then, in the USA, we drive on a parkway and park on a driveway. (Thanks and full acknowledgement to George Carlin.)
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Re: Confused about Rugby

Ah - but the origins of the game were such that getting the ball over the line gave you an attempt (try) at scoring a goal with a kick.
The "try" wasn't actually awarded any points to begin with, simply used to determine a result if the goals kicked were tied.

https://www.englandrugby.com/twicken...ory/why-a-try/
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Re: Confused about Rugby

Thanks for the article, Minty!

I'm a little (no, make that totally) blown away by these quotes which I read:

the rules allowed a game to be drawn if no one had scored a goal after three days’ play!

All undecided games were drawn after five days’ play.

If I played a game for three HOURS with no results, I would give up and consider another sport. Even Soccer gives up after a mere 90 minutes.

That article did clear up one thing for me. I know that USA Football was at least derived from Rugby with a few new wrinkles added. One phrase that had always made me curious about our scoring was why the "point after touchdown" (or P.A.T.) was sometimes called a "conversion." Of course, when reading that article I realized it was just another Rugby term that stayed with us until linguistic drift caused us to use other phrases. But we still talk about the "two-point conversion" for running in the ball for the "extra point" after a touchdown. And I saw that if the player actually crosses the goal line, he DOES in fact "touch down" the ball - unless he is tackled first and merely falls over the goal line.

A little glimpse of cultural diversion never hurts.
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Re: Confused about Rugby

Don't even look at cricket Doc.

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Re: Confused about Rugby

Thanks, I have enough sticky wickets of my own.

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