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Old 09-07-2017, 07:01 AM   #16
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Re: North Korea - Fact or Propaganda

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They want to use the nukes to blackmail the G20. Their goal is reunification of the Korean peninsula.
with Communist control.

From what I have seen for a number of years, NK is barely able to feed it's people. I am not sure what NK can export to help it's economy.

Living on the western end of the continental US, We are a bit concerned that NK might eventually send a missile our way. Will hit it's intended target? Who knows, but any nuke even close to us will really cause serious issues.

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I am not sure what NK can export to help it's economy.
My understanding is that NK exports lots of fossil fuels to China for cash, then uses the cash to purchase processed fuels, extra food and goods, and lots and lots of high-tech items.

A Chinese embargo would hurt the Chinese economy but destroy the NK one - that's why Der Orangenführer is pushing China so hard. The loss of the Chinese trade could well end the regime eventually.

Of course, that would likely end with NK attacking SK, as the regime would have nothing left to lose at that point.
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Old 09-07-2017, 07:54 AM   #18
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Re: North Korea - Fact or Propaganda

They most certainly are not using them as bargaining chips. They already had an agreement to not pursue nuclear capabilities in exchange for trade and violated it by developing the tech. The sanctions were a result, not a cause.

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Re: North Korea - Fact or Propaganda

Would the Americans really sever all trade with China, they must be one of their biggest Import partners if not the biggest...
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Re: North Korea - Fact or Propaganda

I highly doubt even Der Orangenführer is that stupid. Especially since he...I mean his company without his input ... is busily attempting to expand into China, as is his son-in-law's company.
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Re: North Korea - Fact or Propaganda

One side note, a Chinese company now owns some American food suppliers (Farmland foods and Farmer John foods for example).
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Re: North Korea - Fact or Propaganda

China also holds a GINORMOUS amount of stored American currency. A mass sell-off in response to sanctions would utterly tank the value of the dollar, over and beyond the effect of the sanctions themselves.

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Re: North Korea - Fact or Propaganda

It looks like NK is going to have and development it's nuclear arsenal unchallenged then as their is nothing politically than can be done..

Conflict, it appears is the only resolution if the US doesn't want NK to have Nukes...
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Re: North Korea - Fact or Propaganda

We will never stop trade with China. They are our largest trade partner in the world as far as countries go. It wouldn't just tank our economy, it would impact the entire world economy. That simply won't happen.

And any sanction we place on China would be met with equal sanctions from them. There's no solution there.

The only way to avoid conflict at this point would be for the two politician brats to meet diplomatically and resolve their own egos.

Maybe Dennis Rodman can get it done.
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Re: North Korea - Fact or Propaganda

One thing many on this forum would like about NK is no personal gun ownership.

Only the gov't has guns.

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