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Old 11-30-2019, 12:35 PM   #16
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Re: extremely sophisticated scamming software

It's interesting.

So what does anybody think is the answer to these scams? Or rather, what particular things trigger the scammers?

Could it be online banking, dating sites or something else?

I don't have online banking, I get money from an ATM and I get a statement printout every week to check nothing unusual has happened to our bank account, I prefer traditional methods of banking, a cash allowance per week etc.

Dating sites always seem dodgy, you can't trust these foreigners.

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So what does anybody think is the answer to these scams? Or rather, what particular things trigger the scammers?
there are none. I once talked to the attorney general of the united states about automated calls i was getting regarding paying back / consolidating my student loans payments. I was getting about 2-5 calls a day. and at the time i started getting those calls (and ever since then), my loans have not existed in any database system run by the us government student loan org's or any of their affiliates. the attorney general told me it's impossible to stop them for 2 reasons:

1) as soon as they shut one down, another one pops up again and they don't have the manpower to spend 24/7 chasing them down.
2) they buy a "one time use" allowance for phone numbers that they use to call from, and they buy them from many different organizations in the country and usually don't purchase the same number again. that's why most of the time you call them back, the number is disconnected.

she told me the best thing I can do is block the spam numbers one by one and eventually the number of spam calls I get per week will drop cuz the spammers can only cycle thru so many numbers.
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Dating sites always seem dodgy
I was also on eharmony 12 years ago and I talked to plenty of legitimate women but only went on 1 date with a girl from a nearby town. and I don't think back I got 1 email about a match termination notice in the 3 months I had the subscription. As the world's population increases, so will the number of scams. and I'm sure they will become much more sophisticated in terms of how they exploit your vulnerabilities, as well as the software they use in the process, which was certainly the case for me.
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Re: extremely sophisticated scamming software

Ever since the 1990's when computers were becoming more popular, and being a programmer, I thought it was easy to hack into things. I never use our current account to do anything online.

I always use a credit card, in the UK, you are protected if anything untoward happens. eBay, PayPal and any purchases are made with credit card. I buy and sell guitars on eBay and feel confident (so far) that I am doing the best to protect our finances.

Dating sites and gambling sites look suspect to me, fortunately they have no interest to me.

I think you are right, nothing really can stop it.

Funny thing, I had a cold call recently from an Indian girl about a "recent car accident" I had. (I never had one) But I played along by saying "oh yes, the bus was a write off, but the donkey was not injured fortunately, not the same for the duck though" etc etc along those lines. She stuck to her script but gave up when I said the bus company paid 10,000 compensation to the ducks family.

Odd that I don't get cold calls any more.

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Now there, Col, we are alike. I once put on the affect of an evangelical preacher who wanted to save the soul of the scammer and put repentance in his heart. But you know what? That good-for-nothing, unrepentant bastard hung up on me.
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I forgot to tell you guys something else that the managing agent asked me when I was transferred to him. When he asked me if I had a checking account and I said yes, he follows up with: "now do you have any money in any other banks?"
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Re: extremely sophisticated scamming software

The scammers on Dating sites are not the people on the other end as portrayed by their date site pictures, they scour the Net, usually Facebook, Instagram and steal pictures of pretty girls, they then make fake profiles and start phishing on the Dating Sites..

If they get busted and banned, they simply use another IP address and start the whole process again...

Why do scammers do it? Simple... If they make 100 scam attempts and 99 fail, the one that's a success will benerate enough cash to easily offset the 99 failures... If there was no money in it, they would'nt do it...
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steal pictures of pretty girls, they then make fake profiles and start phishing on the Dating Sites..
according to the fbi, the scammers that steal those types of pictures and pose as those beautiful women are both male and female.

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according to the fbi, the scammers that steal those types of pictures and pose as those beautiful women are both male and female.
Indeed they are, and probably not even 1 person, but a much larger syndicate or people all doing the same thing.
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Indeed they are, and probably not even 1 person, but a much larger syndicate or people all doing the same thing.
do you know if Anonymous is still operating?

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