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Old 04-01-2017, 02:52 PM   #16
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I totally disagree: People have learned nothing, the Internet has just dummied down people. The internet has only increased the tolerance and acceptance for bad behavior so now horrible behavior is the new "normal"


Back to the Brexit, and other movements like it, is it the internet or is it a rebellion against the banking system? Those with the power to print symbols on paper and take an ever larger part of everything against those who actually work. It is not as if anyone has an idea how to fix anything. They just know that the way things are now is not working. Kind of like an abused spouse breaking up.

Capitalism is so dead, not even its remaining parts were recycled for money.

I now stand corrected! The Guardian had an article about paying people to track down Pythons breeding uncontrollably in Florida's swamps. See some photos:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-hunters#img-4
With an estimated 150,000 pythons, they evidently understood a "market advantage".

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Rx_ I hope you are doing an April Fool's response because the Internet, for better or worse, has materially altered the business and social landscape. Hell, even an old fogey like me can see it. As to "people learning nothing" - they are still people, as smart or as dumb as ever, but now they have many new ways to be one or the other.

What's that old joke about computers and automation? Now, thanks to modern computers and automation, people can make mistakes so much faster with the same amount of effort. Isn't it grand?
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what a great thread it is! @The_Doc_Man and @MarkK, both of you wrote splendid articles! With the evolution of information technologies, the world is changing greatly. I am very proud to be an IT engineer therefore. From the Wechat (we, Chinese, use wechat to receive most information everyday) message, I know countries like Denmark, Sweden are 'real' communist society that my country wants to be 70 years ago. And I think my country is more like a super-power nowadays. The world is quite fair in that it is equally UNfair to everyone at once which is just like the world is perfect for it has imperfect.
I am also heard from Wechat that Edward Snowden once said something like that maybe a new world needs our to rebuild. What is our? we, common people around the world to build a peaceful new world, new government system. At that time, we may use bit-coins to do transactions.

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Re: Why do you thinkd Brexit and Trump happened? Watt's Up With That?

Actually, I'm not in favor of bitcoin as a medium of exchange unless it becomes possible to track them better. I feel that way because (sadly) in this modern world, terrorists still exist who wish to use violence to impose their will on others. They try to use untraceable methods to fund their operations, and bitcoin is one way that can happen. We need to take away their anonymity so that we can hold these people responsible for the harm they cause.

I'm the first guy to say that government sees too much in our daily lives when it should not, but modern terrorists are part of the reason that I am (usually) less vocal about it. I know that until we purge the violence-prone activists from our society, there is a place for surveillance methods. I truly wish it were not that way, but reality can never be discounted. (You learn this in theoretical sciences first.)
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As i always take things for granted, so i begin to learn bitcoin now. As far as i know that bitcoin was created by a Japanese professor. People need to 'dig' the coins (solve complex math problems) . The maximum quantity of bitcoin is 21 million and this number will not increment anymore. @The_Doc_Man, is the bitcoin the currency in the USA? Or is it just a virtual commodity?
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Strictly virtual. Our government hates it because of the difficulty in tracking it, and some hackers require it as a medium of payment for un-hacking your computer.
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"City employees in Vicco, Kentucky could be receiving their paychecks in the form of bitcoin as early as this month after officials there agreed on Monday to begin compensating the chief of police with the emerging crypto-currency.

City officials said on Monday this week that there won’t be a problem with paying Vicco Police Chief Tony Vaughn electronically using Bitcoin, an online-only digital form of currency that has in recent months been accepted at an increasing number of retailers around the world.

Bitcoin allows users to securely pay for goods and services with near total anonymity, all while avoiding the regulations and restrictions often imposed by state-controlled currencies, such as the dollar.

Cris Ritchie for Kentucky’s Hazard Herald reported on Wednesday that Vaughn made his request last month, and this week city officials said they finished their research and would be willing to pay the chief’s salary in bitcoin if that’s his preference.

"We done a checkup on it, and that's the way he wants paid, and that's the way the city is going to pay him," City Commissioner Claude Branson told the Herald.

“Basically his next paycheck” could be in bitcoin, Mayor Johnny Cummings said to the paper. “They've set up the accounts for Vicco and for Tony, so it can be transferred.”

"We just want to be on top of things, and up-and-coming and more progressive as a city," the mayor added.

All applicable federal and state taxes will still be chopped from the top of Vaughn’s salary each pay period, Cummings added, but the remainder will be electronically converted and put in the control of a city-run bitcoin account where funds will then be instantaneously transferred to Vicco’s own digital wallet.

"I'm excited about it; it's a first for Vicco again," Vaughn told Richie, referring to an ordinance passed by the city earlier this year that outlaws discrimination based on sexual orientation. Last month, the United States Senate approved of a similar bill that functions on a federal level — the Employment Non-Discrimination Act, or ENDA — but that act has yet to clear Congress.

But while the EDNA may eventually make its way to President Barack Obama’s desk and be signed into law, no measures whatsoever have been proposed in Congress just yet that would require the government to pay federal employees in bitcoin. Meanwhile, though, Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke wrote to the Senate recently that virtual currencies, like bitcoin, "may hold long-term promise, particularly if the innovations promote a faster, more secure, and more efficient payment system."

One bitcoin is currently worth US$1,230, up from $240 just one month earlier. Earlier this year a Canadian man attempted to sell his Alberta home for bitcoin, and the University of Nicosia in Cyprus recently became the first institution of its type to accept the virtual currency for tuition."

from https://www.rt.com/usa/vicco-kentuck...in-salary-725/ which i just found in the internet. :P

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I'm generally against it at this time. Bitcoin isn't backed by anything that I know and has no country to be responsible for its stability, value, or acceptability. It is in essence an unregulated currency and that makes it unacceptable to my limited viewpoint. It has NO safeguards against collapse, repudiation, or other ills of trade based on a country's declared currency.

As the article states, it is being accepted in many venuws but the problem is that most countries have laws mandating the nature of their medium of exchange. If BitCoin were to become the primary currency of the world, I would expect a collapse of some businesses and a massive price issue for others.

A nation can already do stupid things to devalue its currency. We don't need external forces to pressure currencies into oblivion.

OK, I'm a dinosaur on some subjects. Can't help it.
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Just a quick re-visitation here. I read an article yesterday about how the Brexit voters are beginning to vacillate in their viewpoints. The UK PM who was pushing the split is suddenly not in such good shape. Do any of our UK friends care to comment about this from a more local perspective than mine?
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As usual, the Tory manifesto was long term in it's outlook whilst the Labour manifesto is short term.

May wanted to use the election to strengthen her hand on brexit negotiations and basically gave little thought to the presentation of her manifesto, thinking it would all be about brexit. There was relatively little discussion on brexit and the voters perception of her 'dementia tax' disenfranchised the older generation whilst Labours promise to abolish tuition fees appealed to the younger generation who were also disenfranchised about a hard brexit and motivated them to register and use their vote this time.

Those two 'normal' manifesto type pledges overrode other aspects of the election around defence (Trident) and combating terrorism, the latter of which rose its ugly head twice through this election.

The brexit remainers continue to fight to weaken the UK's negotiation position almost guaranteeing the UK will struggle to get a good deal. To my mind they are acting like spoilt children whereas they should be working side by side with the leavers to secure the best possible outcome for all of the UK - but then would you want a non believer on your negotiating team?

May started from a strong position in the polls - unfortunately the only way from there was down. Corbyn started from a very low position with the expectation he would stay there, but he did in fact do a good job and 'rallied' the troops. So better than expected but from a low initial bar.

May has achieved a (fragile) five year term for the Tory party which should take them through the negotiations and provide a couple of years to 'settle the ship' given the new world we will find ourselves in. Whether she will survive as PM remains to be seen. If there is another leadership contest, it is possible there will be yet another general election
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Yes, @The_Doc_Man, the Bitcoin may be judged by different countries, but do you know something about the "BLOCKCHAIN"? A blockchain is a public ledger of all Bitcoin transactions that have even been executed. It is constantly growing as "complete" blocks are added to it with a new set of recordings. The blocks are added to the blockchain in a linear, chronological order. Each node (computer connected to the Bitcoin network using a client that performs the task of validating and relaying transactions) gets a copy of the blockchain, which gets downloaded automatically upon joining the Bitcoin network. The blockchain has complete information about the addresses and their balances right from genesis block to the most recently completed block.
So the blockchain technology would be using broadly in the very near future, especially in these 4 ways firstly: distributed cloud storage, unbreakable contracts, the end of patents, electronic voting.
In the future, people would say to each other: "Have you BLOCKCHAINED?" instead of "Have you Googled?"
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@CJ_London

I agree with much of your post but have to take issue with 2 points you made:

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As usual, the Tory manifesto was long term in it's outlook whilst the Labour manifesto is short term.
Included in the Labour manifesto were promises to restore police numbers and focus on strengthening the NHS. Neither of these are short term issues.

Both manifestos included points designed for short term impact but the Tories failed miserably to involve the wider electorate with the most inept campaign by either party for years - possibly since Labour in 1983

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The brexit remainers continue to fight to weaken the UK's negotiation position almost guaranteeing the UK will struggle to get a good deal. To my mind they are acting like spoilt children whereas they should be working side by side with the leavers to secure the best possible outcome for all of the UK - but then would you want a non believer on your negotiating team?
Not true. The Brexit vote was a single question & as such the terms of Britain's departure were not covered.
For example, some who voted to leave want to stay in the single market.

Perhaps the issues boil down to peoples' perception of Britain's world status in the long term.
There seems to be a major divide between that perception in different age groups.

Some believe Britain remains a world class power that will be stronger on its own.
Others believe Britain has not had that status for decades and will be immeasurably weakened by leaving the single market and drastically curtailing freedom of movement.
Each side is rightly trying to influence how Britain tries to play the negotiations.

Expecting the EU to 'roll over' to our demands is a guaranteed way of ensuring that the 'UK will struggle to get a good deal'
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Yep, the blockchain will be the revolution. I am working with a group on that now that uses advanced graphic cards (with the next generation memory) as the basic CPU to run it more efficiently and faster.
Foreign countries should use it for their voting as the US is well known for its efforts to influence the elections. It is an old tradition! LOL
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RE: A nation can already do stupid things to devalue its currency. We don't need external forces to pressure currencies into oblivion.

So can a State. Looks like the State of Illinois went below junk bond status. That is horrible news for anyone who thought they had a pension. Looks as if 6 more states may follow in 2017.

The nations pretty much gave up the right to regulate currencies and handed it over to some Central Bank monopoly. That is what I feel the Brexit was about, regaining the right to national control over some non-responsible Central Bank.
Central Banks are not generally recognized for making decisions for morality, social, legal, or environmental reasons.
The central bank in the US needs a war to survive. As we watch the roulette wheel spin, what country will it stop on?
We are all just observers now as the big powers of banks, politics, and deals interact.
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Where are those term limits for sitting senators and representatives? Keep our government fresh and sharp, new ideas, out with the good ol boy network. People being voted in 5 terms, 8 terms is crazy. They have figured out how to rig the system by then or did something stupid and are using our tax dollars to keep people quiet. 2 terms max. That is 12 yrs. I think that is even generous.

That is why we are where we are. Fix it now so our children and their children don't have to deal with this fiasco.

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