Shootings in US schools (1 Viewer)

Sum Guy · Dec 17, 2007

Brianwarnock said:
See posts #2007 and 2008

Brian

So, we're all agreed that no such place exists.
Therefore no one gets to lecture anyone on prejudice, racism and class hatred.
That's going to make for a pretty tame exchange.

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The only thing required for evil to triumph is for men of good will to do nothing - Thomas Jefferson.

dan-cat · Dec 17, 2007

Sum Guy said:
That's going to make for a pretty tame exchange.

Indeed

Such is the price of keeping the victimised, oppressed and thoroughly gagged members of these forums happy I suppose.

Brianwarnock · Dec 17, 2007

I don't think that there will be a problem too many posters follow the same mantra as a work colleague, I must add that he said it with a smile " Let's not have facts get in the way of a good argument".

Brian

Rich · Dec 17, 2007

dan-cat said:
Contrary to your belief, you don't make the rules on who merits the ability to voice their opinion on these forums..

Snap

I refer you to my comment on grandiose posturing

as I've told you before, and I won't be told by anyone how I should feel, not only that but you'd be better employed educating the racist element within your own society first and that starts right at the top. Now tell me why anyone born in your country with one white and one black parent is immediately labelled African American, can you tell me when the last white man was executed for killing a black man in say Texas?

dan-cat · Dec 17, 2007

Rich said:
Snap

I don't think you're quite getting the hang of this 'reading what other people are actually posting' bit. I've never discounted the merit of your opinion on the grounds of your nationality. You however do whenever you fail to come up with a thread of rational thinking. It's why my nationality is always of such importance to you, you don't have the capacity to counter in an unprejudiced way.

Rich said:
as I've told you before, and I won't be told by anyone how I should feel,

Oh quit the blubbering please. You simply can't tolerate anyone having a rational point of view that conflicts with your own. If somebody does, you use prejudice against them to make them go away. I'll give you this, you're very successful at it. Many have decided to do without your bile.

Rich said:
Now tell me why anyone born in your country with one white and one black parent is immediately labelled African American, can you tell me when the last white man was executed for killing a black man in say Texas?

...and cue the same tired old misdirection tactic. I've never denied racism exists in my own country. Guess what Rich. I'm quite aware that you're trying to tie the bad traits of ones country to the person who is disagreeing with you, in this case me. Go use your strawman on someone else. My arguments against you are self-evident.

Rich · Dec 17, 2007

dan-cat said:
I don't think you're quite getting the hang of this 'reading what other people are actually posting' bit. I've never discounted the merit of your opinion on the grounds of your nationality. You however do whenever you fail to come up with a thread of rational thinking. It's why my nationality is always of such importance to you, you don't have the capacity to counter in an unprejudiced way.

You set the ground rules by telling me I'm pompous when posting a statement of fact

ColinEssex · Dec 17, 2007

MrsGorilla said:
Apparently you do too, since you claim everything you have learned about us you learned from watching television, but almost nothing you say is accurate.

Excuse me Cindy, there are bus tours of the blacks in New Orleans at $47 a head. (Doc has confirmed this) The dead spouses of the towers did get $5 million each, the BBC interviewed one such wife and she was overjoyed that her husband was dead as she was going to divorce him anyway.

Plus, if the USA continues to portray itself (in Hollywood) as a bomb blasting 'nuke the bastards' type country - then actually does it - how can that be wrong?

Also, do you not think the prime objective of the Iraq war is oil?

Also, some of the US populace professes to be "christian", but sadly it seems only on sundays. The rest of the week it's business as normal, killing things with guns, shooting up schools, being the biggest porn producer in the world, showing total disregard to cutting pollution, being proud of having a killer dictator as a president . . . . shall I go on?

Even you Cindy have confessed to having a gun, and would not be afraid to murder an intruder - yet you profess christianity as a major factor in your life. Surely murder in cold blood and christianity don't exactly match up.

Col

Sum Guy · Dec 17, 2007

Murder - the deliberate taking of a human life with malice and forthought. Cindy shooting an intruder hardly qualifies.

The bus tours of New Orleans included a lot of other things besides showing the poverty stricken and flood devastated black areas of the city. Doc also confirmed this. Please fix the skip in that record.

The British film industry portrays most of your countrymen living in small villages where the houses have names, the pub is the social centre and everyone is in full agreement as to what should be done to solve the problem. Is this an accurate reflection of Britain?

The US currently gets the majority of its imported oil from Canada. The price of Iraqi oil for use in the US would be much higher. After all its got to be transported from the Middle East.

Isn't "the rest of the week" reserved for business as usual? As to your tirade about the US, what else would we expect from you. I shall respond to your rhetorical question of "shall I go on"...Is there any way to stop you?
It does bring up an interesting point however. Everyone has a right to their opinion. When do you stop having the right of inflicting it on the rest of us.

dan-cat · Dec 17, 2007

Rich said:
You set the ground rules by telling me I'm pompous when posting a statement of fact

I think your pomposity pre-dates my pointing out of it by quite a few millennia.

Rich · Dec 17, 2007

dan-cat said:
I think your pomposity pre-dates my pointing out of it by quite a few millennia.

As does your arrogance

Rich · Dec 17, 2007

The US currently gets the majority of its imported oil from Canada. The price of Iraqi oil for use in the US would be much higher. After all its got to be transported from the Middle East.

This mistaken ethos has been addressed here before at length, please search the archives for the real reasons for this unjust, unwarranted war!

ShaneMan · Dec 17, 2007

ColinEssex said:
Also, some of the US populace professes to be "christian", but sadly it seems only on sundays. The rest of the week it's business as normal, killing things with guns, shooting up schools, being the biggest porn producer in the world, showing total disregard to cutting pollution, being proud of having a killer dictator as a president . . . . shall I go on?
Col

I'll choose to not address the other points but this one is sad but true, only in my opinion. I may not agree with the way you worded everything but America does claim to be a Christian nation and there are many Americans who claim to be Christian but their words and their actions don't match up. Unfortunately, there are many more "actions" that could be added to your list.

Sum Guy · Dec 17, 2007

Rich said:
This mistaken ethos has been addressed here before at length, please search the archives for the real reasons for this unjust, unwarranted war!

Those would be the archives with you and Col going on and on about how the the US invaded Iraq for the oil.
Opinion is not evidence (unless you're qualified experts in the area).

BTW I am not defending the war, just challenging your impressions.

Rich · Dec 17, 2007

Sum Guy said:
Those would be the archives with you and Col going on and on about how the the US invaded Iraq for the oil.
Opinion is not evidence (unless you're qualified experts in the area).

BTW I am not defending the war, just challenging your impressions.

look for the post containing Euros and Dollars, see what you can learn from others

Sum Guy · Dec 18, 2007

Rich said:
look for the post containing Euros and Dollars, see what you can learn from others

I took a look, but all I could find are some ravings from 2 lunatics about the US invading Iraq for the oil.
Perhaps you could point me in the right direction (Forum and Topic name).

JEA · Dec 18, 2007

Why does almost every thread in this forum end up with xenophobic UK vs. US arguments? Always with the same people, always becoming more pedantic as each side refuses to back down.

I know who the antagonists are and their opinions, in my opinion, are worth sweet fanny adam.

Rich · Dec 18, 2007

Sum Guy said:
I took a look, but all I could find are some ravings from 2 lunatics about the US invading Iraq for the oil.
Perhaps you could point me in the right direction (Forum and Topic name).

http://socrates.berkeley.edu/~pdscott/iraq.html

Rich · Dec 18, 2007

JEA said:
I know who the antagonists are and their opinions, in my opinion, are worth sweet fanny adam.

Yes they're called Bush and Bliar

JEA · Dec 18, 2007

Rich said:
Yes they're called Bush and Bliar

Oh get a life! I looked at your post history, you were posting from 1942hrs to 2357hrs yesterday and then your first post today is at 0735hrs. I wonder, where do you find the time to research all these facts and carefully formulated opinions you keep spouting.

ColinEssex · Dec 18, 2007

JEA said:
Why does almost every thread in this forum end up with xenophobic UK vs. US arguments? Always with the same people,

Yes it's tiresome but that's Americans for you. The Americans will always argue because they insist that what they see on their censored TV news is actual fact.

I noticed that SumGuy avoided the USA being the biggest polluter and the biggest porn producer in the world.

Note - many English live in little villages with house names and the pub is the centre of social meetings, your assessment is accurate.

I could respond by asking why aliens from outer space always a) land in the USA b) always in the desert and c) always near a small town which they wipe out with their virus or whatever (until Dustin Hoffman rescues the situation)

Cindy said most of my postings were inaccurate - the bus tours was in fact one of many accurate ones, I was merely pointing out that they exist.

Col

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