Shootings in US schools (2 Viewers)
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KenHigg said:
How about taking the ownership away from the hunters to avoid any registration of guns and who owns what to having some sort of rifle hire, available only to those holding some sort of hunting license, which is only issued for a set period (like a passport) for those testing for things such as sanity, criminal record since last application, eyesight, physique, etc.
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SJ McAbney said:
Again, this would suite me fine. But when you consider the scale of a national solution it becomes undoable. Maybe a pilot system in a smaller, more manageable area would be the place to test it and work out the issues. I would also like to point out that I think a system like this would not eliminate the 'illegal hunting rifles' nor would it prevent an otherwise 'legal' gun from getting into the hands of a criminal. Though it would probably lower the odds...
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Your media, should we watch something else?KenHigg said:
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What are the logistics of enforcing the Patriot act?KenHigg said:
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but that covers most of the population in that listSJ McAbney said:
Once hunters have the taste of blood and the enjoyment of killing something. They strap the carcass to their car and proudly parade around with it. I doubt if they are likely to give up their gun - "its their right to have one"
they just can't help it. I suppose its marginally better to kill a deer than children - its still murder, but you get away with it. Col
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Your media certainly plays a part. The notion, from the answers I received elsewhere, that turnaround in obtaining a gun can be as little as an hour gives it that feel that you can almost walk in off the street and buy one.KenHigg said:
Then kids go to school with them, or the fear is there at least, hence the detectors. And you can carry them in cars, I believe. My friend just came back from seven months driving across the US; I'll ask him for more information.
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SJ McAbney said:
I agree. I'm guessing the bean counters would come into play at about this point; ie: How much is this system going to cost and how much effect will it have. If it cost a $100 million and it saved 1 life it's not worth it... Sad but true. Not just in gun control but with most all issues
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Mile-O, I've suggested this many times in the past, and have always been ridiculed for "believing" what the USA pumps out on TV and film.SJ McAbney said:
I even did a thread on "Things we learn about America from TV and film" - again it was poo-poo'd as being not true.
You're on a loser with this one me old mate - as is Rich, the Yanks won't have it
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No it is only shown on our media, your lot made it in the first placeKenHigg said:May I remind you yet again that it's YOUR media.
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KenHigg said:I agree. I'm guessing the bean counters would come into play at about this point; ie: How much is this system going to cost and how much effect will it have. If it cost a $100 million and it saved 1 life it's not worth it... Sad but true. Not just in gun control but with most all issues
I suppose what's really needed is something, as a kickstart, is something that will empower more people with a sense of community, although I couldn't begin to suggest. The media (TV, film, computer games, music) in general are isolatory pastimes which aids the creation of outcasts, and cutting oneself off from communal activities helps to desensitise such things, degrading the understanding of the effect such activities as shooting can have. Not just in the US, but the world over.
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ColinEssex said:I suppose its marginally better to kill a deer than children - its still murder, but you get away with it.
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See what kind of IQ resides around here Ksan...
One has to be able to weed out the chaff around here and have thick skin at the same time. According to COl, If I kill an deer to eat it's murder, the same as murdering children, but if Col pays his butcher to murder a cow to eat, like paying him to murder children, it's ok...
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Pretty low if your logic is any thing to go by KennyKenHigg said:
The butcher doesn't have to stalk the cow to start with
ColinEssex said:but that covers most of the population in that list
Once hunters have the taste of blood and the enjoyment of killing something. They strap the carcass to their car and proudly parade around with it. I doubt if they are likely to give up their gun - "its their right to have one"
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Whilst I sometimes question the motivation of some individual hunters, If you eat meat you cannot complain about a deer being shot. especially when compared to you roast chicken, and the life it has had...
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I laid that one out for you Kenneth, and you followed it like a lamb to slaughterKenHigg said:If I kill an deer to eat it's murder, the same as murdering children, but if Col pays his butcher to murder a cow to eat, like paying him to murder children, it's ok...
Glad I haven't lost the knack - I was beginning to think you had me sussed for a while.
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Except that you don't hang the chicken's feathers on the lounge wall as a trophymsp said:
