Adam Caramon
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Adam,
I am not showing people who are believers so as to convince you. Only doing it to illustrate what can, at least in part, make me think about things in different directions.
Okay. I get that. But how a discussion/debate works is you say why you think something, and then someone says why they think that is not right.
So you say that these certain incredibly exceptional people happen to see something, and that is, in part, what makes you think that there might be something out there. In other words, you are influenced by these people.
So, then I come in, and ask why you're influenced by this small group of people. Is it because they're intelligent? If so, I show you studies indicating that intelligent people, as a group, are less religious than other groups.
Is it for a different reason? Then we can analyze that and look for evidence to support or detract from your stance.
I'm trying to get you to give me the criteria by which you're making your decisions. But maybe that's where I have been failing. Maybe you don't really have any criteria, or you do, but are not conscious of it.
As a very general thing, that is, plenty of exceptions, atheists will often be employees and their income will be lower than they think it should be.
That is so general as not to mean anything. I'd be willing to wager that on a whole, 80+% of people will have incomes lower than what they think they should be.
They are not often found in the sales areas, especially the self employed sales areas.
But you have no facts, research, or anything to back this up. Just your personal insight.
The reason these debates will never resolve is because each side approaches things from a different direction. In addition our personalities and experiences pre dispose us to one view or the other.
Now there is something I can 100% agree with you on.
Having said that, my intention was never to change your mind. I was trying to learn something about your method of thinking (which was why I kept asking for specifics).
At the end of the day, I can only conclude that your outlook is based almost entirely on personal experience.
Mike375 said:Glaxiom,
The editor in me has to point out that you have spelled Galaxiom's name wrong numerous times.