Checking AWF hit Count...

[Uncle Gizmo]

THE HIT COUNT is HERE:- https://www.access-programmers.co.uk/forums/threads/checking-awf-hit-count.301964/#post-1657654

I was checking website hits - I do this occasionally. I haven't seen anything published on AWF about it before, so I started this Thread ... Makes interesting reading!

According to similar web :- https://www.similarweb.com

Forums where MS Access questions are discussed

AWF get just under 600k hits a month See Here:- https://www.similarweb.com/website/access-programmers.co.uk#overview

Utter Access get around 200k - down from 300k! - I wonder if you can read anything into recent events there! https://www.similarweb.com/website/utteraccess.com#overview

Websites which provide useful information for access users
Allen Browne gets around 75k - https://www.similarweb.com/website/allenbrowne.com#overview

I would say that there appears to be about a 3 to 4% reduction in interest in the Access websites according to the figures. I wonder if this is seasonal, or an ongoing trend might be worth keeping an eye on.

 

[isladogs]

Thanks for this Tony

I've not seen this service before & have bookmarked it for future use

I'd always assumed AWF & UA had similar hit rates but clearly that's not the case
The third of the main Access forums Accessforums.net is much smaller still

But compare all of these with MrExcel.com which has approx 3-4 million hits per month

 

[Uncle Gizmo]

In answering a question about openquery, I happen to notice this in the Microsoft help file:-

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/office/vba/api/access.docmd.openquery

About the contributors
UtterAccess is the premier Microsoft Access wiki and help forum. Click here to join.

And in view of this thread about the number of hits, it obviously isn't the premier site! It's at best in poor taste, and at worst, false advertising!

 

[isladogs]

Although I've rejoined UA after a 6 month gap, it will never be the best Access site for me.

On their home page it claims ....

Over 250,000 members have signed up at UA to enjoy well over 2,500,000 posts - proving UtterAccess.com is the only source for help with Microsoft Access...and more!

Hmm....!
It seems AWF does have fewer members & posts - currently its:

Threads: 258,584, Posts: 1,418,119, Members: 111,396

...but the fact that it gets 2-3 times the number of site visits says a lot about the experience for site users

 

[The_Doc_Man]

Perhaps UA is less about wheat and more about chaff?

 

[Vassago]

Although I've rejoined UA after a 6 month gap, it will never be the best Access site for me.

On their home page it claims ....


Hmm....!
It seems AWF does have fewer members & posts - currently its:

...but the fact that it gets 2-3 times the number of site visits says a lot about the experience for site users

We likely had far more posts. Years ago, the website was hacked and multiple forums and threads were deleted without a way to recover them.

I and many of our long term members lost thousands of posts, although mostly Watercooler posts.

 

[Uncle Gizmo]

I and many of our long term members lost thousands of posts, although mostly Watercooler posts.

Yes I recall the incident! I know I lost quite a bit of stuff, one thing in particular, I'd posted something to do with database audit, a nice solution I thought. I lost that and I haven't been able to reproduce it! I now keep a copy of everything on Google Drive.

 

[Uncle Gizmo]

It appears that Access World Forums hits dropped to 400k December 2018, and have now risen again to 600k as of May 2019 Mr Excel is around 3 million Mark!

Stats:- 2019_06_30
Total Visits:----------- 586.30K
Inc/Dec:-------------- +4.67%
Avg. Visit Duration:-- 00:02:23
Pages per Visit:------ 1.57
Bounce Rate:-------- 73.95%

 

[Uncle Gizmo]

Well this is odd...
The current graph is showing June's hits at just over 300K where, when I recorded it in my earlier post it was at 586.30K

Now, I have no idea why there is this discrepancy between the two figures?

Stats:- 2019_06_30
Total Visits:----------- 586.30K
Inc/Dec:-------------- +4.67%
Avg. Visit Duration:-- 00:02:23
Pages per Visit:------ 1.57
Bounce Rate:-------- 73.95%


Stats:- 2019_10_07
Total Visits:----------- 332.30K
Inc/Dec:-------------- -3.95%
Avg. Visit Duration:-- 00:03:40
Pages per Visit:------ 2.00
Bounce Rate:-------- 69.02%

 

[moke123]

Utter Access get around 200k - down from 300k! - I wonder if you can read anything into recent events there!

I dont spend much time there anymore. What did I miss?

 

[Uncle Gizmo]

I dont spend much time there anymore. What did I miss?

If I understand correctly, they banned Colin Isladog, and he came here.

Sent from Newbury UK

 

[CJ_London]

No I have no idea why there is this discrepancy between the two figures?

Can't remember exactly when, but didn't Google have a big shakeup in what links they provide when someone 'googles' - supposedly to exclude really old data and provide more focused/relevant responses?

It may be the stats have been rewritten to reflect this change - what are the stats for Oct '18? If they have dropped as well it might support the theory.

 

[Vassago]

Are we still destroying UA in visits?

 

[isladogs]

If I understand correctly, they banned Colin Isladog, and he came here.

Not quite correct.
I joined here first then other forums including UA under a different user name before I got banned and all my posts deleted!
I have since rejoined and all is AOK
Several other experienced members from here have at different times been banned by UA

 

[isladogs]

Are we still destroying UA in visits?

Yes. AWF gets double the traffic
https://www.similarweb.com/website/access-programmers.co.uk?competitors=utteraccess.com

BTW the site says it changed its counting algorithm in Sept 2019

 

[Uncle Gizmo]

members from here have at different times been banned by UA

I was never banned, I came here because I didn't like the pompous attitude! I do on rare occasions post on on UA....


Sent from Newbury UK

 

[Uncle Gizmo]

Yes. AWF gets double the traffic

And that's even against the major advantage UA has in that Microsoft link many of its help files back to UA.

So you could assume that either people seldom look up Microsoft help, which is quite believable considering how bad it is, (or was, as I correct myself.) It has been massively improved upon lately from what it used to be.

You could assume (and this was my experience on the site) that it isn't that user-friendly, hence people come to this one which has a better attitude shall we say .....

There may well be other reasons for the difference...

Sent from Newbury UK

 

[Uncle Gizmo]

Access World Forums	VS.	Utter Access
-------------oOo---U---oOo-------------	-------------oOo---U---oOo-------------	-------------oOo---U---oOo-------------
Date	AWF	UA
Stats:- 2019_06_30	Total Visits:----------- 586.30K Inc/Dec:-------------- +4.67% Avg. Visit Duration:-- 00:02:23 Pages per Visit:------ 1.57 Bounce Rate:-------- 73.95%	Not Recorded
Stats:- 2019_10_07	Total Visits:----------- 332.30K Inc/Dec:-------------- -3.95% Avg. Visit Duration:-- 00:03:40 Pages per Visit:------ 2.00 Bounce Rate:-------- 69.02%	Not Recorded
Stats:- 2019_12_19	Total Visits:----------- 329.82K Inc/Dec:-------------- - 0.25% Avg. Visit Duration:-- 00:03:35 Pages per Visit:------ 2.01 Bounce Rate:-------- 70.12%	Not Recorded
Stats:- 2020_02_02	Total Visits:----------- 297.11K Inc/Dec:-------------- - 9.92% Avg. Visit Duration:-- 00:03:18 Pages per Visit:------ 1.83 Bounce Rate:-------- 70.04%	Total Visits:----------- 147.44K Inc/Dec:-------------- - 2.27% Avg. Visit Duration:-- 00:02:06 Pages per Visit:------ 1.61 Bounce Rate:-------- 76.93%
Stats:- 2020_02_13	Total Visits:----------- 328.89K Inc/Dec:-------------- 10.70% Avg. Visit Duration:-- 00:03:17 Pages per Visit:------ 1.75 Bounce Rate:-------- 68.02%	Total Visits:----------- 175.44K Inc/Dec:-------------- 19.00% Avg. Visit Duration:-- 00:01:48 Pages per Visit:------ 1.79 Bounce Rate:-------- 79.83%
Stats:- 2020_03_15	Total Visits:----------- 253.28K Inc/Dec:-------------- -22.99% Avg. Visit Duration:-- 00:03:11 Pages per Visit:------ 1.70 Bounce Rate:-------- 71.89%	Total Visits:----------- 152.42K Inc/Dec:-------------- -13.12% Avg. Visit Duration:-- 00:01:49 Pages per Visit:------ 1.61 Bounce Rate:-------- 78.64%
Stats:- 2020_04_16	Total Visits:----------- 238.84K Inc/Dec:-------------- -05.70% Avg. Visit Duration:-- 00:03:13 Pages per Visit:------ 1.74 Bounce Rate:-------- 70.95%	Total Visits:----------- 138.08K Inc/Dec:-------------- -09.41% Avg. Visit Duration:-- 00:01:49 Pages per Visit:------ 1.59 Bounce Rate:-------- 79.54%
Stats:- 2020_05_17	Total Visits:----------- 262.72K Inc/Dec:-------------- +10.00% Avg. Visit Duration:-- 00:04:45 Pages per Visit:------ 1.75 Bounce Rate:-------- 67.86%	Total Visits:----------- 156.79K Inc/Dec:-------------- +13.54% Avg. Visit Duration:-- 00:02:03 Pages per Visit:------ 1.78 Bounce Rate:-------- 74.08%
Stats:- 2020_06_19	Total Visits:----------- 198.52K Inc/Dec:-------------- -24.44% Avg. Visit Duration:-- 00:03:42 Pages per Visit:------ 1.82 Bounce Rate:-------- 71.36%	Total Visits:----------- 123.66K Inc/Dec:-------------- -21.13% Avg. Visit Duration:-- 00:03:16 Pages per Visit:------ 1.74 Bounce Rate:-------- 77.59%
Stats:- 2020_07_17	Total Visits:----------- 155.83K Inc/Dec:-------------- -21.51% Avg. Visit Duration:-- 00:04:07 Pages per Visit:------ 1.79 Bounce Rate:-------- 70.05%	Total Visits:----------- 93.53K Inc/Dec:-------------- -24.36% Avg. Visit Duration:-- 00:01:45 Pages per Visit:------ 1.51 Bounce Rate:-------- 79.43%
Stats:- 2020_08_17	Total Visits:----------- 191.04K Inc/Dec:-------------- 22.60% Avg. Visit Duration:-- 00:04:18 Pages per Visit:------ 1.61 Bounce Rate:-------- 71.10%	Total Visits:----------- 135.05K Inc/Dec:-------------- 44.39% Avg. Visit Duration:-- 00:03:48 Pages per Visit:------ 2.04 Bounce Rate:-------- 78.51%
Stats:- 2020_09_15	Total Visits:----------- 197.25K Inc/Dec:-------------- 03.25% Avg. Visit Duration:-- 00:05:58 Pages per Visit:------ 1.72 Bounce Rate:-------- 70.45%	Total Visits:----------- 56.10K Inc/Dec:-------------- -58.46% Avg. Visit Duration:-- 00:02:24 Pages per Visit:------ 2.08 Bounce Rate:-------- 62.20%
Stats:- 2020_10_15	Total Visits:----------- 200.93K Inc/Dec:-------------- 01.86% Avg. Visit Duration:-- 00:02:07 Pages per Visit:------ 1.52 Bounce Rate:-------- 73.72%	Total Visits:----------- 28.96K Inc/Dec:-------------- -48.38% Avg. Visit Duration:-- 00:01:32 Pages per Visit:------ 2.51 Bounce Rate:-------- 48.32%
Stats:- 2020_11_18	Total Visits:----------- 204.72K Inc/Dec:-------------- 01.88% Avg. Visit Duration:-- 00:03:18 Pages per Visit:------ 1.54 Bounce Rate:-------- 71.47%	Total Visits:----------- 20.54K Inc/Dec:-------------- -29.07% Avg. Visit Duration:-- 00:01:46 Pages per Visit:------ 3.50 Bounce Rate:-------- 28.78%
Stats:- 2020_12_18	NOT RECORDED	NOT RECORDED
Stats:- 2021_01_18	Total Visits:----------- 262.78K Inc/Dec:-------------- 8.60% Avg. Visit Duration:-- 00:01:41 Pages per Visit:------ 1.63 Bounce Rate:-------- 72.26%	Total Visits:----------- 82.83K Inc/Dec:-------------- 93.00% Avg. Visit Duration:-- 00:01:02 Pages per Visit:------ 2.13 Bounce Rate:-------- 48.23%
Stats:- 2021_02_20	Total Visits:----------- 301.44K Inc/Dec:-------------- 14.71% Avg. Visit Duration:-- 00:01:38 Pages per Visit:------ 1.72 Bounce Rate:-------- 68.63%	Total Visits:----------- 87.76K Inc/Dec:-------------- 5.94% Avg. Visit Duration:-- 00:00:59 Pages per Visit:------ 2.15 Bounce Rate:-------- 50.78%
Stats:- 2021_03_18	Total Visits:----------- 192.80K Inc/Dec:-------------- -36.04% Dec Avg. Visit Duration:-- 00:01:47 Pages per Visit:------ 2.12 Bounce Rate:-------- 69.13%	Total Visits:----------- 75.47K Inc/Dec:-------------- -14.00% Dec Avg. Visit Duration:-- 00:00:52 Pages per Visit:------ 2.26 Bounce Rate:-------- 51.94%
Stats:- 2021_04_20	Total Visits:----------- 226.94K Inc/Dec:-------------- +13.48% Inc Avg. Visit Duration:-- 00:01:41 Pages per Visit:------ 1.77 Bounce Rate:-------- 71.01%	Total Visits:----------- 41.33K Inc/Dec:-------------- -45.66% Dec Avg. Visit Duration:-- 00:01:46 Pages per Visit:------ 2.38 Bounce Rate:-------- 53.31%
Stats:- 2021_05_18	Total Visits:----------- 448.28K Inc/Dec:-------------- +97.54% Inc Avg. Visit Duration:-- 00:01:34 Pages per Visit:------ 1.53 Bounce Rate:-------- 71.17%	Total Visits:----------- 26.85K Inc/Dec:-------------- -35.03% Dec Avg. Visit Duration:-- 00:01:06 Pages per Visit:------ 2.75 Bounce Rate:-------- 43.29%
Stats:- 2021_06_21	Total Visits:----------- 538.33K Inc/Dec:-------------- +20.09% Inc Avg. Visit Duration:-- 00:01:30 Pages per Visit:------ 1.66 Bounce Rate:-------- 67.99%	Total Visits:----------- 18.65K Inc/Dec:-------------- -30.53% Dec Avg. Visit Duration:-- 00:01:34 Pages per Visit:------3.82 Bounce Rate:-------- 38.03%
Stats:- 2021_07_18	Total Visits:----------- 362.28K Inc/Dec:-------------- -32.70% Dec Avg. Visit Duration:-- 00:01:31 Pages per Visit:------ 1.62 Bounce Rate:-------- 67.53%	--------- No DATA Available? -------
Stats:- 2021_08_23	Total Visits:----------- 320.42K Inc/Dec:-------------- -11.56% Dec Avg. Visit Duration:-- 00:01:27 Pages per Visit:------ 1.57 Bounce Rate:-------- 69.36%	--------- No DATA Available? -------
Stats:- 2021_09_18	Total Visits:----------- 311.08K Inc/Dec:-------------- -2.91% Dec Avg. Visit Duration:-- 00:01:57 Pages per Visit:------ 1.82 Bounce Rate:-------- 64.54%	--------- No DATA Available? -------
Stats:- 2021_10_18	Total Visits:----------- 261.98K Inc/Dec:-------------- -15.78% Dec Avg. Visit Duration:-- 00:02:11 Pages per Visit:------ 1.78 Bounce Rate:-------- 68.27%	--------- No DATA Available? -------
MORE THAN 10,000 Character Limit Reached

 

[Uncle Gizmo]

I've updated the stats, put them in the new table feature and added a comparison with UA (Utter Access)

 

[Jon]

Nice work Uncle! Looks like we get twice the traffic, 50% higher average visitor duration, more pages visited per user, and a lower bounce rate. Hopefully we can improve on those figures with the new software and hosting.