Microsoft removes the ban

So what about the millions of PCs that have been unnecessarily thrown away?
The $billions pointlessly wasted?

But the cynic in me wonders if it is to install the Win11 spyware onto PCs that their owners cannot afford to replace and may just go and buy a RaspberryPi5, or a Chromebook. As I have said before, there is a reason for everything.
Let's face it, it is not often MS do something that is not to their benefit is it? I have a laptop running Win10 and when it becomes a problem I'll format it and install Linux. Mind you, years ago I'd refuse to upgrade a client's Windows PC because of the huge amount of time updates required and wasted. But maybe different now, or maybe not?

p.s. I'm still convinced that a Win10 update corrupted the startup and the drive on my Win10 PC a month ago. When I switched on the following day, it just fell over and I was lucky to get stuff of the drive. Now the drive is unreadable using my HDD adaptor cables.
 
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Cotswold said:
So what about the millions of PCs that have been unnecessarily thrown away?
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I don't think anyone threw his/her PC just because s/he couldn't install win 11. They may have bought a new one, but I don't think anyone threw away a working PC with a working OS which is still within it's life time. (Again I think)

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Let's face it, it is not often MS do something that is not to their benefit is it?
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Can you name any organization that do something which is not to their benefit? People keep blaming MS, but I believe all are the same.
You always have the option to run a flavor of linux. I also know some have a dual boot win/linux machine. You may want to give it a try.

Cotswold said:
because of the huge amount of time updates required and wasted. But maybe different now, or maybe not?
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Absolutely different now. Specially with Windows 11. This morning, I updated one of our machines to win 11 within 30 minutes. And it took another hour to automatically download and install all necessary drivers for the connected devices.
 
Given that my laptop is still running Windows 7 and Office 2003 there is normally no need to upgrade just because MS tells you to!

It actually smacks of MS realising that they actually could make Win 11 run on earlier hardware, when a boss invited the programmers to an 'interview without coffee' and told them to get on with it!

To the non-technical and those who don't care about MS's empire building the dominant reason not to upgrade is its awful interface. I was working on my Win 7 laptop yesterday to find a font and realised just how easy thing used to be.
 
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I've read dozens of horror stories about Windows 11. I'm putting it off for as long as I can, since in my own personal experience each OS gets worse and worse - giving the user less and less control over things. Which is something that a non-tech-saavy end user will say "that's great!", but those of us trying to develop are in a different situation
 
I had to buy a new PC a few months ago and I'm sorry I didn't wipe the HD and install Win 7 or 10 and go from there.
 
I think Win 10 will be viable depending on your tolerance for using unsupported stuff, for quite a while yet.
 
I "unofficially" upgraded old "incompatible" HP Pavillion laptop to Windows11 (because I have two and wanted to see if could be done). Not entirely happy with Windows11. First off, can't move task bar to side, only sits at bottom. Then, way it organizes and manages items on taskbar is different. Otherwise, haven't encountered issues. My main laptop is Windows10 unit.
 
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My frustrations with latter OS's tend to often revolve around the taskbar too.
Does ExplorerPatcher still work with Windows 11 , to provide the appropriate combining options that MS removed?
 
Using older versions of Windows will work - not perfectly but reasonably - until your anti-virus package no longer supports that version of Windows. When your A/V no longer deals with a particular version, it is time to move on. And, of course, if you use Windows Defender, your goose is cooked anyway, because THAT won't get security updates either.
 
True, but ... even THEN, you're only not protected against the latest and greatest viruses. The overall odds are .... still not that terrible, IMO.
I've used what is considered outdated software and OS's consistently since computers became a household thing, no issues.
 
Microsoft arbitrarily enforced this rule so they could dominate the market, it was always a sham.
 
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The obvious downside, MS Access won't be available.
There are a several programs that allow you to run Windows programs under Linux. One is bottles, also see the article below. I use bottles to successfully run some Windows games. I have not used it yet for programs such as Turbotax. One of these days I'll get around to testing whether bottles can handle Turbotax. Tax season after all is coming-up. ;) That should provide some motivation.

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I will continue to use older versions of windows - the only reason I upgraded to Win 10 was I couldn't find a replacement copy of 8.1 to mount on my PC when I had to have a new hard drive. I now keep a clone of my SSD, updating it monthly or when I mount a new applicatio (seldom).

For me the only driver remains - does it run Access? I am lucky enough to only need to satisfy myself and my pleasure and hobby is to build and use Access applications.
 
Win 8 was the absolute worst of the worst versions of Windows ever released.
 
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Win 8 was the absolute worst of the worst versions of Windows ever released.
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There are various criteria for that designation. If you consider all of the remote logging that Win 11 does (or at least attempts), I would argue that Win 11 is the ugly dog in the kennel.
 
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