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Old 08-06-2019, 05:47 AM   #421
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Actually, I understand the comments about how the dams were built assuming certain weather conditions that are no longer applicable. I understand that the climate is changing and have never denied the localized changes, only the claimed cause.

The USA is seeing a lot of flooding this year with levees being overtopped by rising waters, not only in the area of the southern Gulf of Mexico states but in the region we call the mid-west - which are inland by a few hundred miles. Even New York and New Jersey had unexpected levels of flooding.

The flooding caused by Katrina was in a way an example of shoddy workmanship but ALSO an example of putting too much stress on the levees such that they failed. Had the water not risen high enough to exert that stress on the tops of the levees, they would not have failed or would have only partly failed, reducing the effect of the high water. Our brush this year Hurricane Barry turned into a non-event because we had better levees - either built or repaired in the 14 years since Katrina.

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Old 08-06-2019, 10:10 AM   #422
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Two things come to mind regarding levees and climate.
1. Levees have been breaching their banks since Pharaoh walked the earth.
2. If you live near one you have chosen to live below the water table, nothing to do with climate, just bad building decisions.
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Old 08-06-2019, 12:08 PM   #423
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Re: NASA Study Indicates Antarctica is Gaining More Ice Than It's Losing -

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The flooding caused by Katrina was in a way an example of shoddy workmanship but ALSO an example of putting too much stress on the levees such that they failed. Had the water not risen high enough to exert that stress on the tops of the levees, they would not have failed or would have only partly failed, reducing the effect of the high water. Our brush this year Hurricane Barry turned into a non-event because we had better levees - either built or repaired in the 14 years since Katrina.
I was under the impression that the hundreds of millions of dollars diverted from maintaining them had something to do with it. After all, wasn't it far more important to upgrade that non-used commercial canal than to safeguard the city? Only one was politically connected, so we know it couldn't have been the poor people protected by the levees...

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Mark_, the consensus we heard locally was that there were three major factors:

1. Katrina was a nasty storm that dropped too damned much water.

2. The levees were constructed in a negligent way with insufficient oversight to detect that they were sub-par. Maintenance of the levees wasn't the issue so much as initial construction using shoddy materials and practices. (But lawsuits against the Army Corps of Engineers failed due to federal protection and exclusionary laws limiting liability.)

3. Flood-control support people cut and ran rather than staying behind to get the pumps running again quickly, which would have spared the city the prolonged flooding in some areas. (Like mine, which though not deep, was flooded for 3 weeks.)

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Re: NASA Study Indicates Antarctica is Gaining More Ice Than It's Losing -

Is this woman for real?

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez In Congress

https://youtu.be/dRv8OcSLKYA

The relevance to this thread is she is asking the guy if his bank is responsible for global warming caused by a pipeline!
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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez In Congress

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At last! A sensible article from a reputable source!

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