not to mention i already advised you earlier (post #3), since i test first before i advise.
I explained in post #13 that merely moving the code to the KeyUp or KeyDown events was not sufficient to make it work (at least not in my Access). I want to test each factor independently and then as pairs to figure out exactly why this is because I'm curious and want to learn to be a better Access developer.
I do very much appreciate your help as well and included you in my thanks at several points above