DOGE

[Pat Hartman]

Maybe you learn how to talk to building officials.

They work for ME and they know I am not in the business. It is their job to facilitate building projects and ensure safety.

 

[The_Doc_Man]

The zoning and permits which restrict and increase the cost of building don't count.

Not as much as you have been programed to believe. Cool Aid drinking again.

Remember that exchange? Tell my why we are programmed again, because this YouTube clip seems to be common sense that makes us retch when we hear about this kind of government abuse.

This is an example of Biden's Build Back Better plan in action. (<hack> <cough>) Sorry, using the word "action" in that context caused me to choke. This is ONE EXAMPLE. ONE of many. Tell me again how we have been programmed to dislike this kind of abuse?

 

[Thales750]

They work for ME and they know I am not in the business. It is their job to facilitate building projects and ensure safety.

I've always gotten along with them fine. I give them respect, and I understand why we have building codes. It helps keep the riff raff out of the business. It also helps keep people from building unsafe swellings.

Modern houses are considerably better than old ones. thanks to the IRC.

 

[The_Doc_Man]

I have interacted with my towns zoning and building departments and they are bureaucrats to the core. Their job is to obstruct whenever possible rather than to facilitate and ensure safety which is how I see their jobs.

Maybe you learn how to talk to building officials.

I just got through a six-month ordeal with my local zoning board because we wanted a variance to allow us to rebuild a fence back like it was originally. The issue was that the fence was built before some new ordinances were enacted. Our grandfathering expired when the fence was damaged and had to be rebuilt. We were not allowed to rebuild the fence like it was. Between the original construction and the time the fence was damaged, a new zoning law was passed regarding driveway visibility. The WORST part of it all was that the fence was damaged because of something done by the local parish (county to everyone else) Parkways division. But, of course, you can't sue them effectively.

I'll spare you the details, but let's just say they were lucky that they screened for weapons at the building where they held the meeting. No, I would have have brought a gun. If I could have carried a small thermonuclear device, the world would have forgiven me for taking them out. But I resisted the temptation. Instead I found a REALLY UGLY fence design that maliciously complied with the rules, so I got my permit peacefully enough. And when I get ribbed for the ugly fence, I will say "Blame that on the zoning board. It's the design they approved."

On the other hand, if the road to Hell is paved with good intentions, I'm on my way because I had the good intention to save my neighbors from ever having to face that zoning board again. I got over it by remembering the old quote attributed to Alexander Pope: "To error is human; to forgive, divine."