Trump Not Happy, Declares to End Relations with Traditional American Allies. (1 Viewer)

[Thales750]

In a bold move to ensure the isolation and the destruction of the American economy, and it's people's wellbeing. The Trump administration is creating division and stagflation at home, losing the support of our most favored nations, and giving the countries around the world even more reason to embrace the Chinese as their preferred superpower ally.

But hey, we got a new name for the The Gulf.

 

[Uncle Gizmo]

In a bold move to ensure the isolation and the destruction of the American economy, and it's people's wellbeing. The Trump administration is creating division and stagflation at home, losing the support of our most favored nations, and giving the countries around the world even more reason to embrace the Chinese as their preferred superpower ally.

Trolling about economic policy is like arguing that the sun rises in the West – amusing, but fundamentally disconnected from reality. Maybe we should discuss the vast, untapped potential of renaming geographical features next?

 

[Minty]

This is all based from the perspective of someone far far away but, I'm not to sure any Country would be happy with a third party not inviting them to talks on a war, they didn't start, and don't want to surrender in, even if they had been assisting you previously.

Renaming something like the Gulf of Mexico is the act of petulant 6 year old, or the school bully, who's mum has just told them off.
Will he rename Greenland as well? Maybe ExplodingPaperStrawLand would be appropriate?

I'm pretty sure his tariff's are really only going to make everything cost more for everybody in the USA, certainly in the short term.
He seems to have little to no understanding of the consequences of most of his actions or what he says when millions are listening.
His ability to incoherently babble gibberish seems to have reached new heights.

It's a shame because if he knew how to stick to facts and not hyperbole and behave like an adult, some of his ideas are vaguely sensible.

Ol' Musky appears to have not much idea what he's doing based on the current raft of ****-ups slowly appearing either.
I suppose you could say no pain, no gain? Or is it the blind leading the mad and deranged?

 

[The_Doc_Man]

I suppose you could say no pain, no gain? Or is it the blind leading the mad and deranged?

Given the membership of Congress, with Ihlan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, and Elisabeth Warren - not to mention Bernie Sanders, it is hard to say who is or is not deranged anyway.

 

[AccessBlaster]

Ask yourself: Has the status quo been working? A staggering $36.22 trillion in debt is that sustainable? Someone needs to challenge conventional wisdom and shake things up before we default on everything.

 

[Pat Hartman]

Renaming something like the Gulf of Mexico is the act of petulant 6 year old, or the school bully, who's mum has just told them off.

Tell that to the folks who renamed the Persian Gulf or is that OK because they're not Trump? How about the ones who renamed Bombay and Peking and Istanbul? Cities and geographical features get renamed all the time. It can't just be wrong if Trump does it. Personally, if I were going to rename the Gulf, I would have chosen "Gulf of the Americas". Since it is surrounded by North, South, and Central "America". But Mexico does look like it hugs the Gulf so I wouldn't have changed the name at all.

 

[AccessBlaster]

Myanmar was formerly called Burma.

 

[Minty]

I think in most of the cases mentioned above there has been a public debate about the prospective change and a consensus of opinion.
You know, like adults...

 

[AccessBlaster]

The military junta renamed Myanmar in 1989

 

[Steve R.]

Renaming something like the Gulf of Mexico is the act of petulant 6 year old, or the school bully, who's mum has just told them off.
Will he rename Greenland as well? Maybe ExplodingPaperStrawLand would be appropriate?

Your missing why this is being done. It is a reaction to what the left has been doing. Under the Biden administration names were being changed to promote a left wing politically correct agenda. Statutes were even removed (and some destroyed) under the premise of them being "offensive". These were spiteful actions by the left to promote the concept that the US was fundamentally racist and evil. The media never seemed to lambast the left for these "petulant 6 year old, or the school bully," actions! Trump is merely responding in kind.

As I have written before; the US under Biden has gone through a rebirth of the Jacobin Revolution (circa 1790) where history was to be erased for the benefit of the new order.

 

[Minty]

The removal of statues has happened recently in the UK. Most famously by a mob in Bristol, because the statue was of a man who had profited from the slave trade.
History should not be re-written.

Trump changed the local name of the Gulf of Mexico, not for any altruistic reasons, but because he wanted to stick a finger up at Mexico.
There were a million more worthy things he could have done but it wouldn't make good TV.

 

[NauticalGent]

...there were a million more worthy things he could have done...

Indeed

 

[moke123]

Will he rename Greenland as well?

You didn't get the memo? It's Red,White and Blueland.

H.R.1161 - Red, White, and Blueland Act of 2025​

https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/1161/text

 

[Thales750]

Indeed

If I would have said the exact same thing, you would have disagreed. Funny how that works.

 

[NauticalGent]

If I would have said the exact same thing, you would have disagreed. Funny how that works.

Funny how you presume to know what I would do. Actually, you have said a few things I agree with and I THINK I may have told you so.

 

[Thales750]

Funny how you presume to know what I would do. Actually, you have said a few things I agree with and I THINK I may have told you so.

Agreed, but not recently, and certainly not since the round of insults you sent my way, so I can only go by your recent history,

 

[AccessBlaster]

If I would have said the exact same thing, you would have disagreed. Funny how that works.

The difference being you would've tacked on a few propagandas, sprinkled on a couple of Nazis, and a fascist for good luck.

 

[NauticalGent]

I guess what you and I consider insults differs. To insult someone, I would call them stupid, ugly or something of that nature. To tell them that they are as polarized as they accuse others as being doesn't classify as an insult - in my opinion anyway. I would not intentionally insult someone unless I feel they deserved it and you certainly would not.

If I have insulted you, I assure you it was not meant to be, and if I have, I do apologize. Dialogue is good, even though no one really wants to consider another point of view, even though we all SAY we do! If Jon's suspicions are correct, we should take advantage of this freedom while we still have it!

 

[Isaac]

This is all based from the perspective of someone far far away but, I'm not to sure any Country would be happy with a third party not inviting them to talks on a war, they didn't start, and don't want to surrender in, even if they had been assisting you previously.

Renaming something like the Gulf of Mexico is the act of petulant 6 year old, or the school bully, who's mum has just told them off.
Will he rename Greenland as well? Maybe ExplodingPaperStrawLand would be appropriate?

I'm pretty sure his tariff's are really only going to make everything cost more for everybody in the USA, certainly in the short term.
He seems to have little to no understanding of the consequences of most of his actions or what he says when millions are listening.
His ability to incoherently babble gibberish seems to have reached new heights.

It's a shame because if he knew how to stick to facts and not hyperbole and behave like an adult, some of his ideas are vaguely sensible.

Ol' Musky appears to have not much idea what he's doing based on the current raft of ****-ups slowly appearing either.
I suppose you could say no pain, no gain? Or is it the blind leading the mad and deranged?

I agree with some of what you have said - the Renaming, the if he could stick to facts and not hyperbole to some extent, and Musk creating problems by acting too impulsively.

Tariffs I think the jury is still out on. I'd rather wait a substantial amount of time on that to see the total cost/benefit analysis, big picture.

I think 99% of his speech, though, is very practical, down to earth, and said in a way that a normal person talks, rather than the typical politician corporate HR mumbo jumbo double-speak or worse yet, financial/legal jargon. I actually like that about him. He doesn't say things prepared to be written down and repeated, he talks like a normal person actually talks. The 1% is the unnecessary hyperbole that he could benefit by steering clear of

 

[Isaac]

I guess what you and I consider insults differs. To insult someone, I would call them stupid, ugly or something of that nature. To tell them that they are as polarized as they accuse others as being doesn't classify as an insult - in my opinion anyway. I would not intentionally insult someone unless I feel they deserved it and you certainly would not.

I'd take about the same view - insulting is calling someone something mean and totally pointless, like stupid, idiot, ugly, etc.
And even there, not all insults are necessarily morally wrong.
When I hear about schools trying to teach 6 year olds about gender fluidity, I'd definitely call them idiots.
Jesus had a habit of calling people all kinds of names when the situation was drastic enough to warrant them.
To us, those words might seem a bit elegant and noble, but I'm pretty sure it was just words that were common in those days, and probably similar to us calling someone an idiot or a grifter or a liar.