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[jdraw]

boblarson
your link is broken.

If you are referring to the DataPig link --that site was removed about 24 months ago.
Also note that Bob left the forum several years ago.

 

[SAHASRA]

Thank You So Much. Very Help for Learning with tutorials.

 

[Cotswold]

I have a copy of the book Access2010 Inside Out, by Conrad & Viescas, printed by Microsoft 2010. © Conrad & Viescas.
Maybe not in the same class as Getz & Litwin but they make a good fist of it.

As anyone who has a copy will know, the printed book itself is just 1,440 pages, including the index etc. The book itself is of a starter to intermediate detail. Other more advanced detail are in the PDFs. The whole book is 1,868 pages and those additional 428 pages are in the 'bonus content' as well as the book's full PDF. I have the PDFs that came with the book. The bonus content is twelve PDFs and there is also the full book a as PDF with the full 1,868 pages.

It is unclear if it would be legal for me to post these PDfs on the forum to help new users. Access2010 is not the same as Access2023, or no doubt 365 but it is to all intents and purposes for a new user, as near as matters.

I have no desire to pirate this content from Conrad & Viescas, or have some Microsoft bureaucrat pointlessly persecute me if I posted them.

Perhaps a member knows the legal situation on this?

 

[Jon]

We cannot share copyrighted material on the forums.

 

[GPGeorge]

I have a copy of the book Access2010 Inside Out, by Conrad & Viescas, printed by Microsoft 2010. © Conrad & Viescas.
Maybe not in the same class as Getz & Litwin but they make a good fist of it.

As anyone who has a copy will know, the printed book itself is just 1,440 pages, including the index etc. The book itself is of a starter to intermediate detail. Other more advanced detail are in the PDFs. The whole book is 1,868 pages and those additional 428 pages are in the 'bonus content' as well as the book's full PDF. I have the PDFs that came with the book. The bonus content is twelve PDFs and there is also the full book a as PDF with the full 1,868 pages.

It is unclear if it would be legal for me to post these PDfs on the forum to help new users. Access2010 is not the same as Access2023, or no doubt 365 but it is to all intents and purposes for a new user, as near as matters.

I have no desire to pirate this content from Conrad & Viescas, or have some Microsoft bureaucrat pointlessly persecute me if I posted them.

Perhaps a member knows the legal situation on this?

Ahem, as a book author, the thought of having someone create PDFs of one of my books and posting them anywhere so that I no longer receive royalties from sales is rather appalling to me.

 

[cheekybuddha]

the thought of having someone create PDFs of one of my books and posting them anywhere

I think from Cotswold's description that these are official PDF's that came with the book, rather than knock-off's someone has created.

Still, if that's the case, then surely they would also be copyrighted material? Just because you have an electronic version of something, it doesn't give the right to make it available on the internet.

 

[GPGeorge]

I think from Cotswold's description that these are official PDF's that came with the book, rather than knock-off's someone has created.

Still, if that's the case, then surely they would also be copyrighted material? Just because you have an electronic version of something, it doesn't give the right to make it available on the internet.

Her's the part that set me off: "...there is also the full book a as PDF with the full 1,868 pages."

No one has the right to give away the full book as a PDF without the Publisher's permission. My first book is available as a PDF from the original publisher, if you want to buy it in that format rather than printed form.

When someone buys a copy of a book in PDF format and turns around and posts it as a free download, neither I nor the publisher get a penny from then on. It's no more complicated than that.

On the other hand, if I post a copy of the PDF as a free download on my own website, that's on me. That's not what I'm referring to.

I have skin in the game here. Pirated PDF's of books are one part of the reason technical book publishing has declined. Who wants to invest hundreds of hours writing, editing, producing a book when you know that someone will quickly copy and give it away? Publishers invest thousands of dollars in editing, printing, marketing and distributing books. When someone pirates and gives them away, that investment is lost. Publishers have to be able to recoup their costs in order to pay for the next book. When they don't, they stop publishing them or go out of business.

 

[cheekybuddha]

Her's the part that set me off: "...there is also the full book a as PDF with the full 1,868 pages."

I get that.

My point was that it seemed like you thought someone had made the pdf rather than it being something that came with the book.

the thought of having someone create PDFs of one of my books and posting them anywhere

For the avoidance of doubt, I completely agree with you - posting the pdf (ofiical or not) is a no-no!

 

[GPGeorge]

I get that.

My point was that it seemed like you thought someone had made the pdf rather than it being something that came with the book.


For the avoidance of doubt, I completely agree with you - posting the pdf (ofiical or not) is a no-no!

The extra materials are distributed as a PDF. I assume they are intended for purchasers of the book, but I don't know that one way or the other.

I don't know about the PDF of the whole book. If it was available to someone who also purchased the paperback, turning around and giving it away free to the world is still not legitimate.

Here's a link to the US Copyright Office's page on Fair Use. Note that it applies only to works published in the U.S. That's the case with John and Jeff's book, although John now lives in France.

Fair Use (FAQ) | U.S. Copyright Office

Fair Use

www.copyright.gov

It includes this paragraph, which I believe applies here. A PDF is, by definition, a "computer file" specifically mentioned as being protected.

Is it legal to download works from peer-to-peer networks and if not, what is the penalty for doing so?
Uploading or downloading works protected by copyright without the authority of the copyright owner is an infringement of the copyright owner's exclusive rights of reproduction and/or distribution. Anyone found to have infringed a copyrighted work may be liable for statutory damages up to $30,000 for each work infringed and, if willful infringement is proven by the copyright owner, that amount may be increased up to $150,000 for each work infringed. In addition, an infringer of a work may also be liable for the attorney's fees incurred by the copyright owner to enforce his or her rights.

Whether or not a particular work is being made available under the authority of the copyright owner is a question of fact. But since any original work of authorship fixed in a tangible medium (including a computer file) is protected by federal copyright law upon creation, in the absence of clear information to the contrary, most works may be assumed to be protected by federal copyright law.

Since the files distributed over peer-to-peer networks are primarily copyrighted works, there is a risk of liability for downloading material from these networks. To avoid these risks, there are currently many "authorized" services on the Internet that allow consumers to purchase copyrighted works online, whether music, ebooks, or motion pictures. By purchasing works through authorized services, consumers can avoid the risks of infringement liability and can limit their exposure to other potential risks, e.g., viruses, unexpected material, or spyware.

 

[Cotswold]

I did think that issues with copyright would prevent me but thought it was worth asking. As a software writer ( albeit retired) I am opposed to any form of piracy.

I bought the book 14 years ago, which included a CD containing the official PDFs.
However, the book has long been out of print for maybe ten years plus. The only way to buy one is from the likes of AbeBooks, from which only the seller and AbeBooks would profit. At present I've no intention of selling it. Maybe my children will sell it? Some computer books 20+ years old can sell for decent prices, if they are in good condition. I've been surprised to see Access97 books ta higher prices than later versions. Few second hand will include a CD though.

My idea to pass on the PDFs would not be taking income from MS, or Conrad & Viescas as the book is not published, or available as new anymore. Plus I had no intention of benefitting financially. As for myself I have issued and intend to issue more software on GITHUB under the MIT license that I did sell over 35 years ago, that I didn't sell with the business. The idea is to maybe help new starters in that particular language. (none issed in access up to date, those I'd post here as well as on GITHUB)

I think the total killer of the idea is from Jon in #24. So I'll put it in the forgetting tray and just keep it for my own occasional use.

 

[GPGeorge]

I did think that issues with copyright would prevent me but thought it was worth asking. As a software writer ( albeit retired) I am opposed to any form of piracy.

I bought the book 14 years ago, which included a CD containing the official PDFs.
However, the book has long been out of print for maybe ten years plus. The only way to buy one is from the likes of AbeBooks, from which only the seller and AbeBooks would profit. At present I've no intention of selling it. Maybe my children will sell it? Some computer books 20+ years old can sell for decent prices, if they are in good condition. I've been surprised to see Access97 books ta higher prices than later versions. Few second hand will include a CD though.

My idea to pass on the PDFs would not be taking income from MS, or Conrad & Viescas as the book is not published, or available as new anymore. Plus I had no intention of benefitting financially. As for myself I have issued and intend to issue more software on GITHUB under the MIT license that I did sell over 35 years ago, that I didn't sell with the business. The idea is to maybe help new starters in that particular language. (none issed in access up to date, those I'd post here as well as on GITHUB)

I think the total killer of the idea is from Jon in #24. So I'll put it in the forgetting tray and just keep it for my own occasional use.

As I said, I have skin in this book publishing game, and that makes me less likely to give the issue a wink and a nod.

It makes no difference if another copy of this book is ever printed or sold. What matters is that John and Jeff, both of whom I know and consider friends, along with the publisher own the rights to distribute it as they see fit. End of story.

You can give away or resell the copy you have, of course.

 

[Cotswold]

Which is just what, I said! Why reiterate?
Jon answered my question in #24.