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the UK should return Northern Ireland
And the USA? Are there bits of the USA which should be returned? Parts of Texas? The Black hills? Hawaii? . . The trouble is, most countries are composed of bits and pieces of other countries - where do you stop?
 
And the USA? Are there bits of the USA which should be returned? Parts of Texas? The Black hills? Hawaii? . . The trouble is, most countries are composed of bits and pieces of other countries - where do you stop?
You never know what could happen in the USA. Didn't the Soviet Union break apart after 70 years? The will of the people who inhabit a land that was annexed by another country matters. If more than two-thirds of a colonies citizens vote for independence, don't you think their wish should be granted? The people have a right to decide their future via vote.
 
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I consider my posts to be constructive and respectful. If I cannot even express my views in that manner, then what's the sense in even having non- Access related forums?
 
And the USA? Are there bits of the USA which should be returned? Parts of Texas? The Black hills? Hawaii? . . The trouble is, most countries are composed of bits and pieces of other countries - where do you stop?
Northern Ireland has been fighting for their independence for over 100 years.
 
I have moved several threads from Watercooler to Politics & Current Events. I'm not finished, but my wife reminded me that it is approaching lunch time in my time zone. You folks can call me a lot of things, but don't EVER call me late for lunch.
Docs funny reply was posted one year ago, so the situation isin't new. Now that the Political & Current Events forum is no more, does that mean posting anything political or current event in Watercooler is going to be banned? In other words, constructive respectful posts about politics, religion, people, or anything non-Access related is forbidden in AWF?... Food for thought.
 
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You have no clue, people like Pat, Uncle, Colin, are vested here. You show up here talking about wiping out years of threads without a second thought.
On the contrary, I don't feel they should be wiped out. Problem is, which one's violate the UK's thought police?
 
The primary rule (currently) is civility to other members, i.e. avoidance of vulgarities or direct insults. Frequency of posting is not an issue. Fortunately for me, being long-winded in a post is legal. Yes, I admit to getting on a "soapbox" now and then. Though brevity is the soul of wit, even the US Congress allows long-winded speeches as a delaying tactic. For our UK friends, this tactic is the meaning of the word "filibuster" - which we might mention and some non-USA members might not understand.

Strictly speaking, for this forum, the specific topic isn't an issue. The REAL problem is whether it is inflammatory. Even the USA, which has a "Freedom of Speech" clause in the first amendment to the U.S. constitution, has laws against certain types of hate speech and speech that might incite to panic or riot. The forum doesn't have a "moderator of moderators" yet - but we DO have moderators in general.
 
Discussing politics in The Watercooler instead of the (now closed) Politics section leads to the same risk. It's not rocket science.
 
That's what I thought, so no political, religious, or current event discussions allowed in Watercooler, or any other AWF forum? What are you going to do with the Gazillion older posts spread out over several forums that mention those topics?
 
There is a complaints procedure already, where you click Report to report a specific post.
 
There is a complaints procedure already, where you click Report to report a specific post.
I posted like 3 or 4 posts mentioning King Charles, Ireland, etc. in this and another thread. Do you consider them to be respectful and constructive? Do you think UK would consider them a violation of OSA?
 
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I consider my posts to be constructive and respectful. If I cannot even express my views in that manner, then what's the sense in even having non- Access related forums?
Maybe just take a breath . You've been here 6 mo., your post count is going exponentially. Step back, take a breather get a feel for things from observation for a bit.
 
I posted like 3 or 4 posts mentioning King Charles, Ireland, etc. in this and another thread. Do you consider them to be respectful and constructive? Do you think UK would consider them a violation of OSA?
Whether or not it complies, the politics section was removed to reduce risk. Those users who continuing to discuss politics here means they are a risk if they remain members.
 
Maybe just take a breath . You've been here 6 mo., your post count is going exponentially. Step back, take a breather get a feel for things from observation for a bit.
I disagree. Membership length does not give more rights to post than other members with less time. The only rule here is to reach 100 posts before being allowed to post links.
 
Whether or not it complies, the politics section was removed to reduce risk. Those users who continuing to discuss politics here means they are a risk if they remain members.
Okay then so I will no longer mention anything political or religious, no matter how respectful and constructive it may be. I sure hope other members can do the same.
 
I disagree. Membership length does not give more rights to post than other members with less time. The only rule here is to reach 100 posts before being allowed to post links.
......And you replied within seconds.
Less coffee, less something, I dunno man - just a friendly piece of advice
 
I personally feel the UK should return Northern Ireland to the Irish. That would end the animosity. The Irish have a right to self_determination. The UK has granted independence to many other former colonies, so why not them?

I was surprised the Scots voted against independence.
The trouble is that the USA has no idea about the UK.
Before you roll out the rubbish about "giving Northern Ireland back to Ireland" why not ask the people in NI what they want instead of telling them what is good for them? Ask many in NI what they are and they'll say they are British.
This is just not so simple and involves religion. If the Catholics become a majority they may well force a vote but the effect will probably be protestants moving to England or Scotland. One problem is money and Ireland probably cannot afford to fund NI, so the last thing they want is to merge. Which is probably why Ireland doesn't ask to merge with NI. Even though the EU imagined it would happen at Brexit, clueless.

Scotland independence is a joke. As is Wales. Both have populations lower than Yorkshire. Both do not earn enough money to exist. The combined populations of both is lower than London. And they both think they can be independent countries. Scotland is simply a huge financial drain on England. A millstone around our neck and a real pity they didn't vote independence, that would have saved us a fortune year on year.
Scotland became a part of the UK in 1707 because it had bankrupted itself with a crackpot investment in South America. It had to come cap in hand for English money back then. Even today as a country it is incapable of understanding macro economics. The dream was to be independent and join the EU and adopt the Euro as currency. Unfortunately for them the EU refused to stump up to support Scotland.
The main politician for independence had to resign due to dodgy financial schemes. Whether she gave back the camper van bought with donations intended for for independence I do not know. Scotland has one of the highest drug and alcohol dependencies in Europe with their
so called government being the main employer and as country is unable to survive without huge subsidies from England. Every time an SNP politician opens their mouth all they shout is "give us more money". Basically that is all the fish wife Sturgeon ever said.

Wales is similar and is allowed like Scotland to manage its budgets but again only with huge amounts of subsidies.

NI, Scotland and Wales are not the simple naughty England took them over and won't give them independence rubbish story we hear from the USA and Europe. In fact as far as NI is concerned just when did you hear that they themselves requested to leave the UK? Was it actually never?

So many Americans have this fairy tale Ireland/Irish image in their minds, Biden, Bluespruce and @Pat included it does appear.
 
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The trouble is that the USA has no idea about the UK.
Before you roll out the rubbish about "giving Northern Ireland back to Ireland" why not ask the people in NI what they want instead of telling them what is good for them?
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Dont hold back now, tell us whats on your mind...

A citizen of Gibraltar told me a similar story...
 

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