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[Steve R.]

What do you suffer from that you have such a difficult time understanding the law?

The Democrats have been abusing the "law" through lawfare, that implies one can have a "difficult time understanding the law" since those charged with carrying out the "law" are purposely misconstruing it to serve a political purpose (lawfare). The Biden administration was using Stalinist "justice", as expressed by Lavrentiy Beria: "Show me the man and I’ll show you the crime." The Biden administration may now be gone, but those on the left are still attempting to implement that "legal" nightmare.

 

[Mike Krailo]

It's time to get rid of the bad laws and make some common sense laws that benefit the people, and not politicians or political activists. If you work for the federal government and provide a needed service, good for you, but there is no law that says the government must employ you forever. If you are not needed anymore, then it's time for you to go into another part of government, or get a normal job like the rest of us.

This is essentially an abuse of judicial power to prevent the president from doing what he was elected to do. I don't care what the labor laws are, you are either an essential needed part of government or your not. If your not, start looking for another job.

 

[Steve R.]

'Sounds Like DOGE': Obama Appointed Biden to Lead Campaign to Cut Government Waste in 2011

A 2011 video of Barack Obama decrying government waste and appointing Joe Biden to lead his "Campaign to Cut Spending" has resurfaced, with Elon Musk saying it "sounds exactly like" DOGE.

www.breitbart.com

Virtually everything we do now is recorded. So when the Democrats attack DOGE, one can pull-up old recording of Democrats, in this case Obama (Manchurian Candidate) calling for the very same things DOGE is attempting to do. Unfortunately, Obama's word salad was nothing more than lies. Obama never had any intention of actually imposing fiscal responsibility. This was further illustrated by the creation of the Simpson–Bowles Commission (National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform) which was another disingenuous publicity stunt by Obama. Obama never had any intention of imposing fiscal accountability. I feel very sorry for both Simpson and Bowles since they made a valiant effort, only to be rebuffed in the end.

 

[Mike Krailo]

Virtually everything we do now is recorded.

Except for what democrats do behind closed doors.

 

[Pat Hartman]

What do you suffer from that you have such a difficult time understanding the law?

The "law" limits the power of local judges to local issues. No local judge gets to govern the United States of America in place of its duly elected President. That would create chaos, don't you think? Every Tom, Dick, and Harry in Podunk NY, thinks he controls the federal government. The President is the CEO of the Executive branch. He gets to make staffing decisions. And probationary employees can be fired at will. That is what "probationary" means in this context.

 

[moke123]

The "law" limits the power of local judges to local issues.

Thanks you proved my point. They're not local judges.

 

[Pat Hartman]

Thanks you proved my point. They're not local judges.

So any non-local judge can replace a President's executive decisions? or just Trump's executive decisions? That is insanity and you should know that. Trump is not committing any crime by firing people that any low level manager could fire without challenge. Don't be ridiculous. This is just another case of activist judges trying to usurp the President's authority to govern which the people elected him to do. They couldn't convict him of made up crimes. They couldn't get his name taken off the ballot. They couldn't bankrupt him and cause him to withdraw, so they only thing they have left is to prevent him from acting on his Presidential authority. In your dreams.

I notice that you had absolutely no problem with Biden giving the Supremes the middle finger with his last attempt to illegally dismiss college loan debt. They said he didn't have the authority to forgive the debt and he said ** and the horse you rode in on and did it anyway. Now we have a real kerfunkle. Are the people who got their loans forgiven now going to have to come up with the money to repay the loans that were forgiven? I wonder if they will be allowed to take back the vote Biden bought from them for this empty promise.

 

[moke123]

So any non-local judge can replace a President's executive decisions? or just Trump's executive decisions? That is insanity and you should know that. Trump is not committing any crime by firing people that any low level manager could fire without challenge.

My god. They're not replacing anything. They are saying that the firings are not legal because he did not follow the law that congress specifically put in place to keep presidents from doing specifically what he's doing. Who said he's committing a crime?

 

[moke123]

here. Try to keep up.

Litigation Tracker: Legal Challenges to Trump Administration Actions

A public resource tracking the legal challenges to the Trump administration's executive orders and actions.

www.justsecurity.org

 

[Steve R.]

In responding to a question, Musk looked extremely hurt when he said (paraphrased): "These people were my friends!"
Moreover, the Biden administration (as another display of disgusting politics) passed legislation that snubbed Tesla cars from climate change tax credits. For the Biden administration, attacking political opponents was a non-stop activity. Though Biden has left the stage, attacking political opponents extends even into today as expressed in the cartoon below. For Democrats it is party first, the National interest does not matter.

 

[AngelSpeaks]

In responding to a question, Musk looked extremely hurt when he said (paraphrased): "These people were my friends!"
Moreover, the Biden administration (as another display of disgusting politics) passed legislation that snubbed Tesla cars from climate change tax credits. For the Biden administration, attacking political opponents was a non-stop activity. Though Biden has left the stage, attacking political opponents extends even into today as expressed in the cartoon below. For Democrats it is party first, the National interest does not matter.
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Newsom also snubbed Tesla for credits

 

[Pat Hartman]

My god. They're not replacing anything. They are saying that the firings are not legal because he did not follow the law that congress specifically put in place to keep presidents from doing specifically what he's doing. Who said he's committing a crime?

If any low level manager can fire a probationary employee at will, then the judge is simply trying to stop Trump from acting as the CEO of the Executive branch. That is the meaning of "probationary" unless the left has changed that since I last read its definition in my Funk & Wagnalls

 

[Thales750]

I've heard a lot of raving from the Party Hardliners lately about Weaponizing the DOJ.

I know, right?
Who in the right mind would support a President that did that sort of thing?

"Today, President Donald J. Trump signed an Executive Order to suspend security clearances held by individuals at Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP (Paul Weiss) pending a review of whether such clearances are consistent with the national interest," the White House said in a fact sheet.

Pomerantz oversaw the Manhattan District Attorney's Office's investigation into Trump and his business practices.

 

[Pat Hartman]

I've heard a lot of raving from the Party Hardliners lately about Weaponizing the DOJ.

If you consider prosecuting actual crimes weaponizing, then you don't understand the term. The Democrats were picking people to prosecute and then made up crimes with which to charge them. They even went to the point of getting the NY state legislature to change a law to allow Trump to be charged with a 30-year old "crime" for which the accuser had NO evidence and could not even come up with a season in which this non-event happened let alone a year. J'accuse was all it took. The other NY "crime" had no victim. They picked a random law and said it applied. In the history of NY, no one had ever been accused of that "crime" using the specified law. Even the judge said that the prosecution didn't prove a "crime" was committed and so the jury members could each decide what "crime" might have been committed and vote based on that. THAT is what weaponizing is.

 

[Steve R.]

@moke123: Trump has been a victim of lawfare for approximately the last eight (8) years. Given that, it is surprising that you (who have been associated with the legal system) seem purposely "blind" to corrupt partisan justices persecuting Trump. You seem to imply that judges are saints when it comes to the "law" as applied to Trump. Unfortunately that is not the case. Judges, like anyone, can be corrupt and infected by TDS. Some District Courts have been acting as "Kangaroo Courts" on behalf of the Democratic party to interfere in the ability of Trump to execute his duties as the Nation's Chief Executive Officer. Hopefully, in the near future these disgraceful partisan obstructive efforts will soon be overturned.

 

[moke123]

unless the left has changed that since I last read its definition in my Funk & Wagnalls

try reading it in The Code of Federal Regulations (CFR). That's the definition that counts.

 

[Pat Hartman]

Nothing there regarding procedures to fire someone.

 

[moke123]

Nothing there regarding procedures to fire someone.

It's there Pat, you just need to look.

 

[Isaac]

Here is another one, we have the highest per person health care cost in the world, and the most overall cost. And yet, we are down in almost every quality of life metric; compared to many other 1st world nations. Number 27 in longevity.

I agree that our healthcare is a mess. I was SUPER impressed one day a few years ago when my wife and I needed to see a doctor in Mexico. For $25 he sat with us for an hour, learned every detail of our medicine and physical history, prescribed some stuff, and gave us amazing advice.
In the USA , where people think healthcare is better, you spend hundreds for a physician who walks in one door of the room and on his way across hands you whatever script you think is best for yourself (or he is getting a kickback for) and walks out the other door, 30 seconds tops. I laugh at people who think USA healthcare is necessarily so much better than our southern neighbors, at least they take the time.

 

[Thales750]

If you consider prosecuting actual crimes weaponizing, then you don't understand the term. The Democrats were picking people to prosecute and then made up crimes with which to charge them. They even went to the point of getting the NY state legislature to change a law to allow Trump to be charged with a 30-year old "crime" for which the accuser had NO evidence and could not even come up with a season in which this non-event happened let alone a year. J'accuse was all it took. The other NY "crime" had no victim. They picked a random law and said it applied. In the history of NY, no one had ever been accused of that "crime" using the specified law. Even the judge said that the prosecution didn't prove a "crime" was committed and so the jury members could each decide what "crime" might have been committed and vote based on that. THAT is what weaponizing is.

I think weaponizing would include revoking a clearance to a law firm that was on the opposing side.