Trump Administration Predictions (3 Viewers)

[The_Doc_Man]

Who is Abrego-Garcia?

He's the illegal immigrant who was in Maryland and who got picked up by ICE agents and flown to El Salvador, which (oddly enough) is where he is a citizen. We sent him to his birth nation. Which is what immigration law suggests that we do.

The Libs claim that he was under a protective no-deportation stay after his - not one, but TWO - deportation orders pending against him. In those two orders, the presiding judges BOTH agreed that he was a member of the MS-13 gang. For some reason, his lawyers denied this claim. Later, when the MS-13 Gang went on the USA's "foreign terrorist organization" list, his protective order supposedly was overridden, though I'm not up on the details of immigration law at that level.

One big whine from the Libs is that he was taken and while in the air, some judge ordered him returned - but that didn't happen. The plane didn't turn around. Can you believe that? So NOW the bleeding-heart Libs claim that he was denied due process and thus they want him returned from the high-security jail where El Salvador puts their criminals. Conveniently forgetting the fact that his deportation orders were issued in a due process proceeding and then confirmed in the appeal of that result.

The situation is escalating because the judge who issued the airplane return orders is filing contempt charges against the Trump administration for disobeying his court order. SCOTUS has weighed in with a 9-0 decision clarifying that the judge doesn't have the authority that would be required to interfere with USA diplomatic relations with other countries. The SCOTUS order DID say that if El Salvador wanted to send Garcia back, we should facilitate that action by sending a plane to pick him up. However, the president of El Salvador says they don't want to send him back. They want to keep him on the criminal charges THEY have against MS-13 gang members, I guess. AND, since he has deportation orders pending, if he came back he would be taken into custody and deported a second time. Immediately.

By the way - while in Maryland, Mr. Abrego-Garcia was also served with a restraining order by his wife TWICE - both times for physical abuse. The charges against him as a member of the MS-13 gang include human trafficking, ra**, and torture. And for some totally opaque and unfathomable reason, Libs still want this delightful pile of returned to the USA.

 

[Pat Hartman]

And for some totally opaque and unfathomable reason, Libs still want this delightful pile of returned to the USA.

I think if the judge agrees to house the POS while he is awaiting the next plane out, we could consider it.

MS-13 has been declared a terrorist organization and so that eliminates any consideration of asylum claims

 

[Thales750]

I don't think I have ever made that accusation


But then again...

Multiple times. And, he is a Madman. Wait and see.

 

[Thales750]

How can you possibly judge a policy that has been in place for a whopping 5 minutes?

Just think what damage he can do in an hour.

 

[Thales750]

Remove regulations, unless by doing so you strike at your enemies.

US halts construction of vast wind farm off New York coast - BBC News

The pause is a major blow to the US's wind energy industry which has been targeted by President Trump.

www.bbc.com

 

[Thales750]

Honestly, I think the liberals are being rocked on their heels. It's impossible for them to react to anything, so they are focused on tariffs and Kilmar Abrego-Garcia

Maybe it's that Trump's implementation of Tariffs is as distructive as possible. So now the voices of the nonliberals are louder than the noise of Woke. It's the moderates and even the lean to the Right folks asserting themselves, finally.
To you it all sounds liberal.

 

[AccessBlaster]

Maybe it's that Trump's implementation of Tariffs is as distructive as possible. So now the voices of the nonliberals are louder than the noise of Woke. It's the moderates and even the lean to the Right folks asserting themselves, finally.
To you it all sounds liberal.

He's got you guys turned around and inside out. You have no idea what to do.

 

[NauticalGent]

He's got you guys turned around and inside out. You have no idea what to do.

Sad isn't it...?

 

[AccessBlaster]

Sad isn't it...?

There’s no real opposition to Trump right now unless you count the "oligarchy tour": Dumb and Dumber flying around the country at $15,000 an hour. Clearly, they’ve given up on the climate.

 

[The_Doc_Man]

Remove regulations, unless by doing so you strike at your enemies.

US halts construction of vast wind farm off New York coast - BBC News

The pause is a major blow to the US's wind energy industry which has been targeted by President Trump.

www.bbc.com

The last time I saw much about wind farms, they were beset with problems of durability. The idea is good but if you are stuck with a high overhead to keep the blades spinning, maybe not so good. There was an overheating problem such that the turbines ignited the insulation and lubricants. There was also an issue with blades breaking, leading to unbalanced generators that shook themselves badly and that also triggered failures. Hey, maybe some of that HAS been fixed - but it had a bad rep for reliabiility. I don't mind the idea of paying for something that works, but if it isn't going to work, ... no thanks, not interested.

 

[Thales750]

The last time I saw much about wind farms, they were beset with problems of durability. The idea is good but if you are stuck with a high overhead to keep the blades spinning, maybe not so good. There was an overheating problem such that the turbines ignited the insulation and lubricants. There was also an issue with blades breaking, leading to unbalanced generators that shook themselves badly and that also triggered failures. Hey, maybe some of that HAS been fixed - but it had a bad rep for reliabiility. I don't mind the idea of paying for something that works, but if it isn't going to work, ... no thanks, not interested.

Which has nothing to do with reducing regulations. Only when it suite you, do you agree. Ashes to ashes.

 

[Isaac]

Large companies encourage regulation? Why? They can afford the overhead and the startups that are trying to gain a foothold cannot.

Amen sister!
Regulation is a major barrier to small businesses and even not so small ones. Big ones welcome it to cement their advantages - and also, in all honesty, probably to avoid fines and lawsuits that are more volatile and unpredictable than a simple new regulation that establishes expectations and industry norms.

 

[Isaac]

Who will you blame when the Republicans lose the House in 2026?

Doesn't the incumbent presidential party virtually always lose in an off cycle year? Most of the times?

 

[Isaac]

He's the illegal immigrant who was in Maryland and who got picked up by ICE agents and flown to El Salvador, which (oddly enough) is where he is a citizen. We sent him to his birth nation. Which is what immigration law suggests that we do.

The Libs claim that he was under a protective no-deportation stay after his - not one, but TWO - deportation orders pending against him. In those two orders, the presiding judges BOTH agreed that he was a member of the MS-13 gang. For some reason, his lawyers denied this claim. Later, when the MS-13 Gang went on the USA's "foreign terrorist organization" list, his protective order supposedly was overridden, though I'm not up on the details of immigration law at that level.

One big whine from the Libs is that he was taken and while in the air, some judge ordered him returned - but that didn't happen. The plane didn't turn around. Can you believe that? So NOW the bleeding-heart Libs claim that he was denied due process and thus they want him returned from the high-security jail where El Salvador puts their criminals. Conveniently forgetting the fact that his deportation orders were issued in a due process proceeding and then confirmed in the appeal of that result.

The situation is escalating because the judge who issued the airplane return orders is filing contempt charges against the Trump administration for disobeying his court order. SCOTUS has weighed in with a 9-0 decision clarifying that the judge doesn't have the authority that would be required to interfere with USA diplomatic relations with other countries. The SCOTUS order DID say that if El Salvador wanted to send Garcia back, we should facilitate that action by sending a plane to pick him up. However, the president of El Salvador says they don't want to send him back. They want to keep him on the criminal charges THEY have against MS-13 gang members, I guess. AND, since he has deportation orders pending, if he came back he would be taken into custody and deported a second time. Immediately.

By the way - while in Maryland, Mr. Abrego-Garcia was also served with a restraining order by his wife TWICE - both times for physical abuse. The charges against him as a member of the MS-13 gang include human trafficking, ra**, and torture. And for some totally opaque and unfathomable reason, Libs still want this delightful pile of returned to the USA.

You forgot one little important fact. The administration actually admitted & agreed that he was sent out because of a clerical error.

He was under a legitimate protective stay, regardless of what we all might think about him being or not being a member of a gang. I disagree that it is at all clear that he was an active member of that gang. I've read everyone's news stories from every imaginable side - it's not at all clear. And this thing where Trump just shouts "MS 13" every time he wants to do something needs to stop, it's childish and easily seen for what it is. Guilty by association is a terribly slippery slope. We have millions of regular illegals that can be deported, so we need to STOP going for the edge cases and stick to the easy ones.

He should be returned. If we want our deportation of illegals to be seen as legitimate, we have to suck it up and follow the rules, the more we deviate from them, the less legitimate it will be seen as, which hurts the whole legitimate aspects of the conservative cause.

I like a lot of Trump's ideas, but I'm not afraid to call it what it is , which it increasingly is becoming unfortunately

 

[The_Doc_Man]

Which has nothing to do with reducing regulations. Only when it suite you, do you agree. Ashes to ashes.

I'm just selective about what I like and what i don't like. Arent' you? My concern was all about practicality and pointing out that to me it wasn't a cause for which I would raise a ruckus.

 

[The_Doc_Man]

He was under a legitimate protective stay, regardless of what we all might think about him being or not being a member of a gang.

When MS-13 was declared to be a Foreign Terrorist Organization, it voided the protective stay, according to at least some articles. Remember that in my answer to NG, I expressly hedged because that is a nuance that requires knowledge of the intermeshing of various immigration and terrorist laws, which is a bit of specialized knowledge. I can only tell you that White House spokespersons claimed that the FTO claim voided his protection. If they were lying, that's not good - but they made that statement repeatedly in open press events. Someone should be able to confirm that one.

Guilty by association is a terribly slippery slope.

Guilt by association with a known terrorist gang would at least make him an accessory if he did something so innocuous as to stand guard at some facility or house where MS13 was staying. SCOTUS has said deportations are legal as long as they have enough time to file some sort of legal claim. What WASN'T said was that if they are illegals, they KNOW from the moment they cross the border that they have also crossed a line that would lead to deportation. Maybe I'm being harsh, but this administration's lowered tolerance has to be a warning to those who ignore our border laws. It is not enough to cross our borders any more. IMMEDIATELY be prepared to do something through our legal system to facilitate your stay, because if you don't, that is a second count against you.

 

[Thales750]

Amen sister!
Regulation is a major barrier to small businesses and even not so small ones. Big ones welcome it to cement their advantages - and also, in all honesty, probably to avoid fines and lawsuits that are more volatile and unpredictable than a simple new regulation that establishes expectations and industry norms.

How so? Large builders and small ones have the exact same rules, in both cases regulation keep them honest. Chemical both large and small same rules, and yet, we have thousands of small chemical plant in the US. You're being duped by the very people whose pockets will benefit from the extra pollution and unsafe buildings.

 

[Thales750]

I'm just selective about what I like and what i don't like. Arent' you? My concern was all about practicality and pointing out that to me it wasn't a cause for which I would raise a ruckus.

Of course, but you are having an about face on these regulations because you don't like wind energy, or maybe you just love the idea of winner take all.

 

[The_Doc_Man]

Of course, but you are having an about face on these regulations because you don't like wind energy, or maybe you just love the idea of winner take all.

I don't dislike the concept of wind power. Taking energy out of the air will, according to the laws of thermodynamics, reduce the atmospheric heat energy that forms bigger storms, which is a good thing in my book. So far, I just haven't liked the high failure rate of the wind turbines. I wasn't making a comment on any regulations in specific. As to "winner take all" - it's a good idea if you can make it happen. Otherwise, be like me and be content with what you have most of the time, with just enough discontent to occasionally grumble a bit.

 

[Thales750]

I don't dislike the concept of wind power. Taking energy out of the air will, according to the laws of thermodynamics, reduce the atmospheric heat energy that forms bigger storms, which is a good thing in my book. So far, I just haven't liked the high failure rate of the wind turbines. I wasn't making a comment on any regulations in specific. As to "winner take all" - it's a good idea if you can make it happen. Otherwise, be like me and be content with what you have most of the time, with just enough discontent to occasionally grumble a bit.

And yet, your defense of the excessive, and extremely political, Trump Co regulations about wind licenses was to go straight for attack about wind energy problems not regulations. I serve to point out the inconstancy of your belief system. You mostly just ignore points where you know I correct and answer the ones that are debatable. Even if you debates are mostly incorrect. lol

I do say that I have respect for you, your way of life, and your opinions. Much more than others that paraphrase and extrapolate, thank you for trying to keep that part reigned in.