Sly and Sneaky Starmer's Latest Ego Trip.

But is it not the money that you / Trump is interested in - willing to continue the conflict if Ukraine concedes and "sells" its rare earth minerals in exchange for continued support?
Support in the form of a peace deal and rebuilding, NOT a never ending war, duh! Only the profiteers want a never ending war.
 
And yet your presumption is based on something we know just isn't true, the idea that they can beat Russia into submission. Doc, they're not going to win all they're doing is throwing away lives

I was speaking in the abstract, not the specific.

What Ukraine can do to Russia is the other side of that barbarian situation. If you can't beat the barbarians, then what do you do next? Martyr yourself, relocate, or surrender?
 
If you can't beat the barbarians, then what do you do next? Martyr yourself, relocate, or surrender?

Neither of the above. The barbarians are a nuclear power that cannot be ignored. You allow the United States to try to broker a peace deal, and it may involve ceding a little land OR giving up some of your precious minerals in exchange for the billions in support.
 
Neither of the above. The barbarians are a nuclear power that cannot be ignored. You allow the United States to try to broker a peace deal, and it may involve ceding a little land OR giving up some of your precious minerals in exchange for the billions in support.
The Russian invasion of Ukraine has reminded us of the uselessness of the UN, just in case we didn't already know it is useless. There are numerous small/large "wars" going on as we speak between UN members and the UN is impotent or too corrupt to intervene successfully.
 

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