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[Pat Hartman]

And rightly not.

You don't even read your own quotes. How is this not siding with Hamas?

Israel gave up the perception of moral superiority.

How is this not buying into the propaganda? It is propaganda, right?

Nothing that Israel has done has given Hamas "moral superiority". Your attacker has an infant strapped to his chest as he charges you, weapon blazing. Do you lay down and die because you are afraid you might kill the baby or do you fire back and try to miss hitting the baby? Hamas doesn't fire rockets from military installations. They fire rockets from hospitals and schools because that's where they cache their weapons because they know the Israelis just won't bomb hospitals and schools. Hamas is the one with NO moral superiority.

 

[Thales750]

While I don't disagree with your analysis, I will say we can't PRINT our way out of this mess by funding Ukraine, Israel indefinitely.

Eventually the chickens will come home to roost and we will be broke like the old soviet union.

Two points here.
There are no messures possible to alter the course of national debt. Our economy is dependent on it. In fact the global economy is sustained by the debt.
Point two, in sometime in the late 90s the adjusted for inflation cost of WWII to the US was 12 Trillian dollars. What would a full scale invasions in Europe cost now? If China is embolden by a failure in the Ukraine,

Mid 5's

Is that high for you? I think maybe business has declared war on California.

 

[AccessBlaster]

I think maybe business has declared war on California.

The other Way around, California declared war on business along time ago.

 

[The_Doc_Man]

Considering the recent California minimum wage boost (to $20/hr) that is now putting various restaurants out of business, it is hard to see that business has declared war on California. It is more that businesses have started full-scale retreat. When the folks in California can no longer get fast food or dine in family-scale small restaurants, they MIGHT eventually get the picture. When theaters cannot afford a clean-up staff and cannot afford concession-stand help, there go the theaters. When small non-chain stores cannot afford the sales clerk, there go the stores. The dominoes are falling slowly, but they ARE falling. The REAL fun comes when enough businesses fold and that source of tax revenue dries up.

 

[AccessBlaster]

Other liberal states will adopt the same nonsense given enough time.

 

[conception_native_0123]

California declared war on business along time ago.

CA is the fly in the ointment. always has been. the state shouldn't be one.

 

[AccessBlaster]

CA is the fly in the ointment. always has been. the state shouldn't be one.

Good luck with that

 

[Thales750]

The other Way around, California declared war on business along time ago.

Samsatics, high gasoline prices are certainly a result.

 

[Thales750]

Considering the recent California minimum wage boost (to $20/hr) that is now putting various restaurants out of business, it is hard to see that business has declared war on California. It is more that businesses have started full-scale retreat. When the folks in California can no longer get fast food or dine in family-scale small restaurants, they MIGHT eventually get the picture. When theaters cannot afford a clean-up staff and cannot afford concession-stand help, there go the theaters. When small non-chain stores cannot afford the sales clerk, there go the stores. The dominoes are falling slowly, but they ARE falling. The REAL fun comes when enough businesses fold and that source of tax revenue dries up.

Just another step in the total elimination of employment. Automation of one kind or another is coming for every human job. We better get that matrix thing going pretty quick.

 

[Thales750]

CA is the fly in the ointment. always has been. the state shouldn't be one.

What does that mean?

 

[AccessBlaster]

Samsatics, high gasoline prices are certainly a result.

How is that semantics

 

[Thales750]

How is that semantics

They are odds, there are plenty shots fired from both side. Tesla and SpaceX both coming here. Austin becoming a major Tech center.
Soon enough the Texas landscape will resemble California's.
It doesn't matter though,California's new inflationary fast foodact is going to provide the needed capital to expand the robot business.lets just hope we build them here in Texas. Lol

 

[The_Doc_Man]

California's new inflationary fast foodact is going to provide the needed capital to expand the robot business.

I think I have to inject a little bit of skepticism on that one. Robot-prepared fast food requires a capital investment but it ALSO requires customers who have not already gotten so fed up with the state as to move away from it. And the exodus to the east has already started. Nevada, Arizona, and Texas have benefited from the population boost.

Adam's comment is actually not far out of line either. California shouldn't be a state. It should be two states - North California and South California. If that happened (and I recall there WAS a movement for just that goal), the northern half would be more conservative and the southern half would be more liberal. That is exactly why the movement was initiated but the problem is that the northern part doesn't have the votes in the CA legislature and thus has to look to other ways to make it happen.

 

[moke123]

California is the 5th largest economy in the world for the seventh consecutive year, with a nominal GDP of nearly $3.9 trillion in 2023 and a growth rate of 6.1% since the year prior, according to the U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis (BEA). On a per capita basis, California is the second largest economy in the world.

Must be doing something right.

 

[conception_native_0123]

Good luck with that

I know there's no luck for that, but my statement about the shithole still remains true.

 

[conception_native_0123]

What does that mean?

it means it causes too many problems just by existing!

 

[Thales750]

I think I have to inject a little bit of skepticism on that one. Robot-prepared fast food requires a capital investment but it ALSO requires customers who have not already gotten so fed up with the state as to move away from it. And the exodus to the east has already started. Nevada, Arizona, and Texas have benefited from the population boost.

The "exodus" will self correct as soon as their real-estate values come in line with the rest of the country. This is not California trying to become communist. This is a direct result of California businesses becoming so incredibly successful and driving the housing cost to unsustainable highs.

Robots are coming for every job. and parking lot sized vending machines are next.

 

[Thales750]

Must be doing something right.

Conservative propaganda blames every problem in the USA on Liberals.

And their people? Well, they sure do love to drink that cool-aid.

 

[Thales750]

it means it causes too many problems just by existing!

Like what?

 

[The_Doc_Man]

Conservative propaganda blames every problem in the USA on Liberals.

And liberal propaganda blames every problem in the USA on conservatives. So your point...?

Just remember this rule, that has played out in countries around the world: Socialism fails when it runs out of someone else's money to spend. And "progressive liberal" ideology is REALLY GOOD about spending other people's money.