In case anyone thought racism in America was dead . . .

[Alisa]

Just don't go out clubbing on a Friday or Saturday night if you come here

I've never been clubbing in my life - no point in starting now

 

[Rich]

Why? Do the seals all hide on the weekend?

We don't allow the likes of Charlie Sheen to come out at all

 

[statsman]

No one ever claimed racism was dead in America.

Just as it's not dead in the UK, Albania, Belorus, Canada, France, Germany, India, Kenya, Malaysia, Nigeria, Poland, South Africa, Qatar, Russia, Turkey, Ukraine or Zambia.

It is a plague for which there is no known cure.

 

[georgedwilkinson]

I agree, statsman. But the thread (as an Obama talking point) is intended to make everybody think that if you don't support Obama, you are a racist. It's just not true.

 

[Rich]

No one ever claimed racism was dead in America.

Just as it's not dead in the UK, Albania, Belorus, Canada, France, Germany, India, Kenya, Malaysia, Nigeria, Poland, South Africa, Qatar, Russia, Turkey, Ukraine or Zambia.

It is a plague for which there is no known cure.

Maybe not but it's far more prevelant in the US

 

[dkinley]

Regardless about who is making the no against Obama claims (I am not surprised where it is coming from) the best quote in all of this ...

" ... voting against Barack Obama doesn't make you a racist, just like voting against Sarah Palin doesn't make you a sexist."

Oh yeah, because we are always asked for references - this quote came from a CNN host and will supply it since it is the only channel the left watches and/or possibly believes.

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/09/beck.issues/index.html?iref=24hours

-dK

 

[georgedwilkinson]

I don't think you'll find many liberals who watch Glenn Beck. He's the token conservative on CNN like Alan Coombs is the token liberal on Fox.

 

[dkinley]

lol ... True.

But he is on CNN's payroll and CNN stands behind him which might lend a bastion of calm in a liberal chaotic storm. Oh yeah, if you ever get to chance to listen to Alan's radio show - it's awesome (not sarcastic either).

-dK

 

[ColinEssex]

I agree, statsman. But the thread (as an Obama talking point) is intended to make everybody think that if you don't support Obama, you are a racist. It's just not true.

He's done well though for a coloured bloke. I wonder if he would have got as far if he was white.

Col

 

[georgedwilkinson]

lol ... True.

But he is on CNN's payroll and CNN stands behind him which might lend a bastion of calm in a liberal chaotic storm. Oh yeah, if you ever get to chance to listen to Alan's radio show - it's awesome (not sarcastic either).

-dK

Hmmm. I'll have to check it out.

I was listening to Glenn Beck (in Tampa) before his got his big break. In addition to national issues, he did some local stuff that was just hilarious.

 

[statsman]

Maybe not but it's far more prevelant in the US

And the research this opinion is based upon is...
The internet. We all know if it's on the internet it must be true.
The media. No tv, radio or newspaper has thier own axe to grind.

If you want a spendid example of racism, check out a few of the previous British colonies in Africa. The Brits formed these nations which contain several different tribal groups without regard to the centuries old hatred between them. The largest tribe generally calls the shots. The rest make do as best they can.
Example: Nigeria/Biafra, Somalia, Kenya etc.

 

[Brianwarnock]

If you want a spendid example of racism, check out a few of the previous British colonies in Africa. The Brits formed these nations which contain several different tribal groups without regard to the centuries old hatred between them. The largest tribe generally calls the shots. The rest make do as best they can.
Example: Nigeria/Biafra, Somalia, Kenya etc.

I really think that Americans, who followed near genocidal policies against the Native North american people, should not criticise other colonial powers.
2 questions
1 Why is a country only considered colonial if the crossing of a sea or ocean is involved?
2 How far back in history should we go to prove a point about the current state of a country?

Brian

 

[statsman]

I really think that Americans, who followed near genocidal policies against the Native North american people, should not criticise other colonial powers.
2 questions
1 Why is a country only considered colonial if the crossing of a sea or ocean is involved?
2 How far back in history should we go to prove a point about the current state of a country?

Brian

If you check my location you will see I am from the "silent partner" in N. America. While our treatment of our First Nations is far from faultless, we never tried to eradicate them. We had a self-interest as the Natives did the hard work in the fur trade.

1. These places are now independent countries. It's not the British behaviour in these countries I am pointing out, just the poor job of setting boundaries.
2. The examples were to point out that racism exists in many areas around the world. Not just black/white, Protestant/Catholic, North/South. It also exists black/black, white/white North/North. Racist behaviour is taught and the training begins shortly after a child leaves the womb.

 

[Alisa]

It just gets worse and worse:
Racist Ohioan Mike Lunsford Hangs Obama Effigy from Noose in Tree
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbbcVNOMqSk

 

[statsman]

If the polls are correct and barring a major gaffe in the last few weeks of the campaign, Sen. Obama will be the next President.

It's my understanding that Mike and those like him survive on government grants from the EPA - Endangered species - 1950's KKK racist. Better be careful Mike, or your grant won't be extended.

 

[Alisa]

Is anyone else seeing this stuff?
http://projects.newsobserver.com/under_the_dome/greensboro_reporter_assaulted_at_rally

Greensboro News-Record reporter Joe Killian was attempting to interview protesters who supported Barack Obama when he was kicked in the leg by a Palin supporter, according to his blog:

The man began to say something about how of course I was interviewing the Obama people when suddenly, from behind us, the sound of a pro-Obama rap song came blaring out of the windows of a dorm building. We all turned our heads to see Obama signs in the windows.

This was met with curses, screams and chants of "U.S.A" by McCain-Palin folks who crowded under the windows trying to drown it out and yell at the person playing the stereo.

It was a moment of levity in an otherwise very tense situation and so I let out a gentle chuckle and shook my head.

"Oh, you think that’s funny?!" the large bearded man said. His face was turning red. "Yeah, that’s real funny…" he said.

And then he kicked the back of my leg, buckling my right knee and sending me sprawling onto the ground.

Killian searched for a security guard afterward but did not locate the man again.

http://www.fayobserver.com/article?id=307949

Someone slashed the tires of at least 30 vehicles parked outside the Crown Coliseum on Sunday during a rally for Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama, authorities said.

http://southernstudies.org/facingsouth/2008/10/voting-rights-watch-voter-intimidation.asp

Yesterday, Barack Obama held a rally in Fayetteville, North Carolina. Afterwards, Obama supporters streamed over to a nearby early voting center, where they were met by a throng of anti-Obama protesters, who heckled and harassed them as they went in to vote.

http://www.citizen-times.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2008810210324

CULLOWHEE – Police have seven suspects in the case of a dead bear covered with two Barack Obama campaign posters that was dumped at the entrance to Western Carolina University.

A question for the McCain supporters, what do you think of your comrades? Are they just a few nutcases? Cause this is certainly starting to look like a trend to me . . . add these three cases to the people yelling "terrorist" and "kill him" when Obama is mentioned by Sarah at her rallies, and it looks like your ticket is responsible for inciting a level of rage and hatred not normally reached in politics.

 

[Alc]

A question for the McCain supporters, what do you think of your comrades? Are they just a few nutcases? Cause this is certainly starting to look like a trend to me . . . add these three cases to the people yelling "terrorist" and "kill him" when Obama is mentioned by Sarah at her rallies, and it looks like your ticket is responsible for inciting a level of rage and hatred not normally reached in politics.

In fairness to McCain, unless he asked someone to do these things, or hinted that they would be a good idea, I don't think he can personally be blamed. There are, no doubt, idiots 'supporting' both parties but, thankfully, they appear to be in the minority.

 

[Alisa]

In fairness to McCain, unless he asked someone to do these things, or hinted that they would be a good idea, I don't think he can personally be blamed. There are, no doubt, idiots 'supporting' both parties but, thankfully, they appear to be in the minority.

Hmmm. So personally stating that he absolutely approves of campaign literature that directly calls Obama a terrorist doesn't count? So having your VP candidate go around implying that Obama is a muslim communist terrorist doesn't count? So spending MILLIONS of dollars on robocalls to tell voters personally that Obama is a terrorist doesn't count? Give me a break

As far as your statement of false equivalence, I haven't seen any evidence of systematic hateful behaviour by democrats against McCain supporters. If you want to support your statement, by all means do.

 

[dkinley]

... add these three cases to the people yelling "terrorist" and "kill him" when Obama is mentioned by Sarah at her rallies, and it looks like your ticket is responsible for inciting a level of rage and hatred not normally reached in politics.

Now, now .. there ya go again. I am not going to post a buncha stuff where pro-Obama people are doing the same because all of that is just stupid.

Per your allegation, and all the left-wing news ran it as true, the "kill him" bit was unfounded. Even the Secret Service present at said rally didn't hear it and that is their job. But that won't stop you from spreading stupid smears. Have fun with being a liar.

Oh yeah, because you will demand something .... http://www.timesleader.com/news/breakingnews/Secret_Service_says_Kill_him_allegation_unfounded_.html

On the other hand, you have Bill Maher on left-wing TV wishing people were dead going uncensored. Where's the accountability when it swings the other way? Oh yeah, that's called the double-standard.

-dK

 

[dkinley]

Hmmm. So personally stating that he absolutely approves of campaign literature that directly calls Obama a terrorist doesn't count?

Do we not have a first amendment that the liberals are so fond of protecting? Does it only apply to some people and not the other?

If you don't like his message, then don't vote for him. If you don't like his words, sue him and start the movement to take away our first amendment rights.

Once our first is gone, our second is always on the table to be removed by the liberals and we are left not being able to defend any of our rights. Is this the constitution you said you were for? Or only when certain parts of it are used for your purposes?

-dK