All good fun?

[dan-cat]

Well you dummy, it's obvious, to continue to allow man to pursue his blood thirsty sport

...in a controlled and regulated manner. Just like the local chicken factory that provides the ingredients to your chicken chow mein

 

[selenau837]

What do they hunt them for ?

As I stated before, for food as well as to reduce the population. If the deer were not hunted, they would starve to death. They would become over populated and their food source would be dimineshed.

They are also a problem to farmers, drivers etc. They destroy crops as well as cause autmobile accidents.

It's not like they are an extinct animal. Perhaps you've been watching Bambi again and feeling sorry for them.

 

[Rich]

...in a controlled and regulated manner. Just like the local chicken factory that provides the ingredients to your chicken chow mein

I don't eat chicken chow mein and any chicken that I do eat is from a government inspected and regulated abattoir, where the staff are highly trained and skilled.
Of course over there any Tom, Dick or Harry can take pop shots at whatever they like and then display the skins as trophies of they're skill

 

[dan-cat]

I don't eat chicken chow mein and any chicken that I do eat is from a government inspected and regulated abattoir, where the staff are highly trained and skilled.
Of course over there any Tom, Dick or Harry can take pop shots at whatever they like and then display the skins as trophies of they're skill

basically you get someone else to do the killing for you and moan about others who don't do the same.

 

[Matty]

I don't eat chicken chow mein and any chicken that I do eat is from a government inspected and regulated abattoir, where the staff are highly trained and skilled.
Of course over there any Tom, Dick or Harry can take pop shots at whatever they like and then display the skins as trophies of they're skill

Myth #13: The seal hunt is loosely monitored and DFO doesn’t punish illegal hunting activity or practices.

Reality: The seal hunt is closely monitored and tightly regulated. Canada’s enforcement of sealing regulations is thorough and comprehensive. Regulations and licensing policies stipulate hunting seasons, quotas, vessel size and methods of dispatch. Fishery Officers monitor the seal hunt in numerous ways to ensure sealers comply with Canada’s Marine Mammal Regulations. They conduct surveillance of the hunt by means of aerial patrols, surface (vessel) patrols, dockside inspections of vessels at landing sites and inspections at buying and processing facilities. In 2004, Fishery Officers spent approximately 8600 hours monitoring and enforcing the hunt. In the last five years, 94 charges were laid and convictions were upheld in 57 of those cases.

Sealers are well trained in humane hunting methods and are, as a group, responsible and law abiding. Assumptions that large numbers of sealers are violating the laws and regulations governing the hunt are unfounded.


Myth #15: Anyone can get a licence – even those who have never hunted before, and there are no training requirements.

Reality: Before sealers can qualify for a professional licence they must obtain an assistant licence and work under the supervision of a professional sealer for two years. Individuals applying for a personal use licence must demonstrate they apply good sealing practices to ensure the seal is killed in a quick and humane fashion. Personal sealing licences will only be issued to individuals who had a licence, a valid hunter’s capability certificate, or big game licence the previous year and who have attended a mandatory training session.

 

[selenau837]

Myth #13: The seal hunt is loosely monitored and DFO doesn’t punish illegal hunting activity or practices.

Reality: The seal hunt is closely monitored and tightly regulated. Canada’s enforcement of sealing regulations is thorough and comprehensive. Regulations and licensing policies stipulate hunting seasons, quotas, vessel size and methods of dispatch. Fishery Officers monitor the seal hunt in numerous ways to ensure sealers comply with Canada’s Marine Mammal Regulations. They conduct surveillance of the hunt by means of aerial patrols, surface (vessel) patrols, dockside inspections of vessels at landing sites and inspections at buying and processing facilities. In 2004, Fishery Officers spent approximately 8600 hours monitoring and enforcing the hunt. In the last five years, 94 charges were laid and convictions were upheld in 57 of those cases.

Sealers are well trained in humane hunting methods and are, as a group, responsible and law abiding. Assumptions that large numbers of sealers are violating the laws and regulations governing the hunt are unfounded.


Myth #15: Anyone can get a licence – even those who have never hunted before, and there are no training requirements.

Reality: Before sealers can qualify for a professional licence they must obtain an assistant licence and work under the supervision of a professional sealer for two years. Individuals applying for a personal use licence must demonstrate they apply good sealing practices to ensure the seal is killed in a quick and humane fashion. Personal sealing licences will only be issued to individuals who had a licence, a valid hunter’s capability certificate, or big game licence the previous year and who have attended a mandatory training session.

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The myth buster strikes again!! Name fits you well Matty boy!

 

[kilobyte]

I think this little piece of news is very interesting. I hadn't ever heard of 'the Hunt' before now.

From what I understand about slaughterhouses, which is not much, the way they kill livestock is not that different from the way it looks like they kill the seals. They club the cow to stun it, and the puncture it's skull with a pair of spikes that shoot out and then retract into a gun like tool.

Exaggerating the hunt into an inhumane slaughter of defenceless creatures probably makes it carry a lot more weight as a news item. I think by now we should all realize that you can't beleive everything you read.

I think another part of the problem is that seals are a lot cuter than cows and pigs. If someone has a problem with the slaughter of any animal, which many people do, I could see how the hunt would be very offensive to them. However, anyone who enjoys a good BLT should probably let these people earn their living in peace.

 

[Rich]

As I stated before, for food as well as to reduce the population. If the deer were not hunted, they would starve to death.

Why would that be, after all the buffalo were doing well until all those brave men wiped them out.

They are also a problem to farmers

your farmers get subsidies in the billions of dollars from your government, what's the problem ?

drivers etc

so do drunks, pedestrians, speeding motorists, those who don't wear seatbelts, crash helmets, teenagers, etc. should they be shot too ?

 

[Rich]

Myth #13: The seal hunt is loosely monitored and DFO doesn’t punish illegal hunting activity or practices.

Reality: The seal hunt is closely monitored and tightly regulated. Canada’s enforcement of sealing regulations is thorough and comprehensive. Regulations and licensing policies stipulate hunting seasons, quotas, vessel size and methods of dispatch. Fishery Officers monitor the seal hunt in numerous ways to ensure sealers comply with Canada’s Marine Mammal Regulations. They conduct surveillance of the hunt by means of aerial patrols, surface (vessel) patrols, dockside inspections of vessels at landing sites and inspections at buying and processing facilities. In 2004, Fishery Officers spent approximately 8600 hours monitoring and enforcing the hunt. In the last five years, 94 charges were laid and convictions were upheld in 57 of those cases.

Sealers are well trained in humane hunting methods and are, as a group, responsible and law abiding. Assumptions that large numbers of sealers are violating the laws and regulations governing the hunt are unfounded.


Myth #15: Anyone can get a licence – even those who have never hunted before, and there are no training requirements.

Reality: Before sealers can qualify for a professional licence they must obtain an assistant licence and work under the supervision of a professional sealer for two years. Individuals applying for a personal use licence must demonstrate they apply good sealing practices to ensure the seal is killed in a quick and humane fashion. Personal sealing licences will only be issued to individuals who had a licence, a valid hunter’s capability certificate, or big game licence the previous year and who have attended a mandatory training session.

All based on Victorian principles

 

[Matty]

I agree with you kilobyte. I think we're on the same page here.

That's why I made the comment about nobody caring if I got "clubbed" because I wasn't that cute. Their cuteness makes them very media-friendly as well.

 

[selenau837]

Why would that be, after all the buffalo were doing well until all those brave men wiped them out.

That is in the distant past Rich. That has nothing to do with the here and now. BTW, the buffalo is coming back. I've even seen Buffalo sold in the stores where I live.



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our farmers get subsidies in the billions of dollars from your government, what's the problem ?

I don't get subsidies from the governtment. It doesn't stop those flippin' deer from eathing my squash and radishes and cucumber plants.

so do drunks, pedestrians, speeding motorists, those who don't wear seatbelts, crash helmets, teenagers, etc. should they be shot too ?

Drunk and reckless drivers, yes! I have my opinion about that, but this is not the forum for that discussion.

 

[Rich]

basically you get someone else to do the killing for you and moan about others who don't do the same.

that's correct, I can eat it because I know the animal wasn't made to suffer, who was it here just recently that couldn't even kill a pig a point blank range the first time?

 

[KenHigg]

From what I understand about slaughterhouses, which is not much, the way they kill livestock is not that different from the way it looks like they kill the seals. They club the cow to stun it, and the puncture it's skull with a pair of spikes that shoot out and then retract into a gun like tool.

And then braindead people like Rich think they've somehow taken the high ground

 

[Rich]

That is in the distant past Rich. That has nothing to do with the here and now. BTW, the buffalo is coming back. I've even seen Buffalo sold in the stores where I live.

That's because somebody woke up and decided to stop the turkey shoot

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I don't get subsidies from the governtment. It doesn't stop those flippin' deer from eathing my squash and radishes and cucumber plants.

Can't you guys build a fence ?

Drunk and reckless drivers, yes! I have my opinion about that, but this is not the forum for that discussion

Well I afraid we can't blame deer for causing accidents and use it as justification for their slaughter without bringing mankind into the conversation

 

[selenau837]

Can't you guys build a fence ?

Deer can jump 25ft in the air. Been there done that, still the li'l buggers got my squash.

Well I afraid we can't blame deer for causing accidents and use it as justification for their slaughter without bringing mankind into the conversation

That's your opinion and I have mine.

 

[Rich]

And then braindead people like Rich think they've somehow taken the high ground

That's because we're educated on the subject Kenny, that may well be how your slaughter houses operate bozo, but ours are modern and up to date

 

[Matty]

How are the animals killed in abbatoirs in the UK, Rich? I'm curious to know.

 

[Rich]

Can't you guys build a fence ?
Deer can jump 25ft in the air. Been there done that, still the li'l buggers got my squash.

Can't you grow something they don't eat ?

That's your opinion and I have mine. :rolleyes

then you shouldn't have brought it into the conversation as testament to start with

 

[Rich]

How are the animals killed in abbatoirs in the UK, Rich? I'm curious to know.

Enough to satisfy our hunger

 

[selenau837]

*breaks in for an important announcement*

So far I've heard Dumkin, Bozo, and Dummy.

Can't we debate with out the name calling?

*returns back to the debate at hand*