Covid: When conspiracy theories come true

[Isaac]

The process by which pharmaceuticals get trialed, clinically tested, approved is VERY corrupt and shady system, and there are several organizations composed of many physicians and scientists who have tried to change this. Don't trust anything they say about a medicine.

 

[Isaac]

The funniest phrase I've heard is "settled science"

 

[Cotswold]

Maybe worth a read if you still have any doubts?

In summary does the following describe a bunch of clueless chancers and grifters who jumped on the bandwagon for their own enrichment and who are to this day unrepentant?

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An increased risk of myocarditis and pericarditis from mRNA Covid vaccines, acknowledged by the British Heart Foundation and the British Medical Journal citing a global study, and other serious side effects suffered by a number of people, should also have been a subject for intense scrutiny. As it would be if such horrific problems were caused by medication for any other disease. But not Covid.

 

[Isaac]

Do you think that they (scientists) said you could not contract COVID if you took the COVID vaccine?

I thought Fauci supposedly was a scientist

 

[GaP42]

My question

Do you think that they (scientists) said you could not contract COVID if you took the COVID vaccine?

Was in relation to the process of scientific enquiry and the papers/claims made by scientists generally. Reporting results and drawing conclusions in such papers are typically restricted to the hypothesis being tested and, where further, more speculative conclusions are stated, are often couched in less certainty, and point to further testing/ hypotheses.
As others here have pointed out - science is not a one-track path to the truth, rather science does not provide absolute proof, but rather evidence that supports or refutes a hypothesis. Absolute claims such as you could not contact COVID if you took the COVID vaccine are unlikely to be made by the scientists themselves who report on their studies and trials.

Fauci is a scientist. He was not directly involved in the COVID vaccine development but had a role in public communication and response to the pandemic. He is an infectious disease expert and has participated in many scientific studies of infectious diseases. If such a statement was made by him then it was stupid. However, I have found no such statement. Do not confuse related statements with the messages he may have made about safety or severity: One such report:
Dr. Anthony Fauci, on why individuals with the COVID-19 vaccine should still wear masks in public until the country achieves herd immunity.
Fauci explained that it is not clear how effective the current vaccines are at curbing the spread of the virus from an immunized person to others. In other words, a vaccine will prevent the recipient from getting sick, but that person may still carry the virus and expose those who have not received the vaccine.
Did Fauci make the statement that the vaccine will prevent the recipient getting sick? The tendency may be to interpret that no illness occurs, but it is not that. Some here obviously think that and try to deliberately misrepresent the position being stated. May be a form of TDS directed at Fauci?