Election Do-Over!!! (1 Viewer)

[Isaac]

Didn't take him long to get a book out. Guess he needs to supplement the pay he recieved to testify.

Amazon.com: True Blue: My Journey from Beat Cop to Suspended FBI Whistleblower: 9798888450239: Friend, Stephen, Turchie, Terry, Devine, Miranda: Books

Amazon.com: True Blue: My Journey from Beat Cop to Suspended FBI Whistleblower: 9798888450239: Friend, Stephen, Turchie, Terry, Devine, Miranda: Books

www.amazon.com

Right, he definitely gave up a lucrative career to get a $5,000 donation. Totally makes sense.

The guy on the subway probably gave up his life & Freedom to get a GoFundMe donation after work. It's all a conspiracy...

 

[Pat Hartman]

@moke123 I'm not sure which one of the people who testified this is but one of them at least was only suspended without pay. That means he works for the FBI and so CANNOT have another job without permission AND cannot earn more than ~ $7500 per year in that position. Sure hope his spouse works because a lot of people couldn't live more than 2 months on that sum, let alone 12. Should his family starve? It's a tactic to force him to quit so he loses all protection. Those are the scum bunnies that run the FBI.

DEFUND the FBI NOW before they can interfere in another election.

And really, I thought that whistleblowing was protected and the people who do it are NOT supposed to be punished. The whistleblower certainly is if the information emparasses Trump or other conservative. But we're back in hyprocasy city again.

 

[Pat Hartman]

Judicial Watch just won another 2020 election related lawsuit.

Pennsylvania Settles Voter Roll Lawsuit with Judicial Watch | Judicial Watch. The article also mentions earlier successesses against Colorado, Las Angeles, NYC, Kentucky, and NC.

178,258 registered voters were ineligible to vote and those names will be removed from the voter rolls. Judicial Watch was also awarded legal costs and fees.

Guess how much Biden "won" Pennsylvania by?

3,459,923 = Biden
3,378,263 = Trump
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81,660 = difference ==== less than half the number of illegal registrations.

Now, if only they will go back and tell us how many of the ineligible voters voted in 2020. Somehow, if Trump had managed to win in 2020, this might be important to someone

 

[Isaac]

Judicial Watch just won another 2020 election related lawsuit.

Pennsylvania Settles Voter Roll Lawsuit with Judicial Watch | Judicial Watch. The article also mentions earlier successesses against Colorado, Las Angeles, NYC, Kentucky, and NC.

178,258 registered voters were ineligible to vote and those names will be removed from the voter rolls. Judicial Watch was also awarded legal costs and fees.

Guess how much Biden "won" Pennsylvania by?

3,459,923 = Biden
3,378,263 = Trump
---------------------
81,660 = difference ==== less than half the number of illegal registrations.

Now, if only they will go back and tell us how many of the ineligible voters voted in 2020. Somehow, if Trump had managed to win in 2020, this might be important to someone

Really amazing. All of their "there is no evidence" clamoring fell on deaf ears, to me.
It's obviously the type of thing that there ISN'T going to be any hard evidence for, for the most part - there cannot be by definition, but it was pretty obvious a bunch of shady stuff was going on!

Their "but illegal voting is almost never an issue" falls on deaf ears, for me, too ... Obviously prosecutors in the Democrat districts aren't looking for it! They are harshly prosecuted in Republican areas - in fact, if I'm being honest, too harshly in several cases I read about, but that's a different conversation.

 

[Steve R.]

Really amazing. All of their "there is no evidence" clamoring fell on deaf ears, to me.
It's obviously the type of thing that there ISN'T going to be any hard evidence for, for the most part - there cannot be by definition, but it was pretty obvious a bunch of shady stuff was going on!

The false assertion of "there is no evidence" is a question of definition. For a Democratic, evidence would be limited to actual ballot box stuffing anything else is dismissed. For example, Zuckerberg's spending of $400+ million dollars to "assist" local election official with soliciting Democratic votes is not considered fraud. It should be considered fraud.

Consider the infamous "51 intel experts" denying the existence of the H. Biden laptop. One could consider that evidence of election fraud as it was a blatant lie supported by the "deep state" that undercut Trump in his debate with Biden. Which also leads to the fact that the media was virulently anti-Trump. While the media has the freedom of free speech, it should not be a propaganda outlet for the Democratic party.

The existence of fraud, like most things, is on a scale. Some is obvious, some is not. Manipulating the electorate can constitute election fraud.

 

[moke123]

Interesting that those 5 counties are predominantly republican.

 

[Isaac]

It IS interesting - and probative of the idea that fair voting eligibility should be across the board, not just partisan attempts to strike out votes in areas held mostly by their opponents...the idea that JW operates like this. Judicial Watch definitely has my respect for that.

If they were very partisan, you'd only read of them doing this in Democrat counties. My parents donate to JW and I have considered doing so too, but too many options for my available $ !

 

[Pat Hartman]

My husband passed away in 2015. I was happy to note that his name was NOT on the voter list when I voted in 2016. Some towns, mine included are very responsible about cleaning the rolls. For deaths, it should be a no-brainer. It is much harder when people move out of their voting district.

I don't think all voting procedures are the same. In CT, you get in line for your district if the polling place serves multiple districts. Two people have lists by street address. You give them your address, present your license and BOTH people find your address and your name and cross them off. Then they give you a ballot and send you off to fill it in. You go to a table with partitions (some are standing and some are sitting). Fill in the ballot and take it to a tabulator. You insert the ballot (I always check the counter first) and the tabulator scans your ballot. I check the counter to make sure it incremented. Then i get my "I voted" sticker from some smiling man or women and I exit. In my town, we have about 50,000 residents and 10 polling places - always school gyms so assuming 50% are registered to vote, each site serves ~ 2500 people. So, at the busiest times 5-8, you rarely have 50 people in line.

 

[Isaac]

Now they want to make stuff like drive-through voting (etc) permanent. It was "because Covid". Now it's "because voter suppression".

Sometimes I wonder how hard MLK would laugh if he found out that the Democrats in Georgia have categorized things like not getting Cheetos or Snickers bars while waiting in line, to be "voter suppression".

I'm not sure which is worse - the galling disgustingness of the lazy American voter, or the sacrilege of calling that voter suppression when 100 years ago there actually WAS voter suppression in serious, painful ways.

Next thing you know they will complain if they don't get a neck massage while in line, it's White Supremacy.

 

[AccessBlaster]

Remember when showing voter ID was racist? But showing Covid-19 ID was perfectly acceptable.

 

[Steve R.]

Sometimes I wonder how hard MLK would laugh if he found out that the Democrats in Georgia have categorized things like not getting Cheetos or Snickers bars while waiting in line, to be "voter suppression".

King would be turning over in his grave today. He fought to end segregation. Now those who you would think would be King's disciples to carry-on the old Civil Rights movement want to reimpose segregation, spread hatred, and victim-hood for the Black community. So instead of a society based on the content of one's character, we are creating a (destructive) society were decisions are based on race.

PS: As and editorial aside, in listening to one of Biden's rants, Biden made the disingenuous comments below"

"At consequential moments in history, they present a choice: Do you want to be on the side of Dr. King or George Wallace? Do you want to be on the side of John Lewis or Bull Connor? Do you want to be on the side of Abraham Lincoln or Jefferson Davis?

Biden from the day he was inaugurated promoted racism. He replaced equal opportunity with equity through an executive order that allows federal decisions to be made based on race. Biden's policies are actually in-line (from the opposite side) with those of George Wallace, Bull Connor, and Jefferson Davis; not King or Abraham Lincoln. Biden, in his current rendition is a racist.

 

[Isaac]

Remember when showing voter ID was racist? But showing Covid-19 ID was perfectly acceptable.

Yeah LOL.

Definitely the funniest thing I've ever heard of though is that not getting free snacks in line is Jim Crow. makes me literally laugh out loud as I sit here.

I remember voting with my parents - you got your ass off the couch, drove somewhere. it only took 15 pleasant minutes, but you actually DID SOMETHING to vote. Wow - imagine that!

 

[Pat Hartman]

Now they want to make stuff like drive-through voting (etc) permanent.

But the left keeps telling us that blacks are too stupid to find the DMV to get a voter ID. How are they getting an actual driver's license? Or is it OK to drive without a license if you're black because forcing you to first find the DMV and then take an actual test is racist? I am really losing my patience with these people. How stupid do they think the rest of us are? OK, pretty stupid. But that's because they keep dumbing down our educational system. If Johnny can't read, well just change the test so that he doesn't have to read. Who needs to read anyway?

 

[Pat Hartman]

Here's some video from Maricopa county. If you don't know what you're looking at, it's hard to tell what is going on but it does look like seals are being removed as well as something that is brought over to the person at the computer and then brought back to the machines. I had to watch the loop a few times to be able to follow the action.

Leftists Busted For Maricopa County Election Fraud - FreshOffThePress

 

[Isaac]

It is amusing watching left wing publications try to find some basis to insult Casey DeSantis.
She's a pretty tough case for that!

 

[Steve R.]

Anecdotal evidence continues to slowly emerge.

Survey: More than 1-in-5 Mail-In Voters Admit to Cheating in 2020 Election

In the 2020 election, more than 1-in-5 voters who submitted ballots by mail say they did so fraudulently, a survey reveals.

www.breitbart.com

A copy an earlier post that is very relevant: Petition to Recall Newsom

Which is why the California recall petition is so telling in terms of the potential for fraud. Here we have a government run by Democrats actually being scrupulous (voter identification) to insure that the signatures (ballot equivalents) were valid. 18.33% were found to be "invalid". That is a large margin of error. The Democrats when it came to a Republican/Democratic election didn't seem to care much for voter identification, but they sure have cared for a Democratic/Democratic election process. The Democrats did not want the 2020 Presidential election to be have voter identification or be audited.

 

[jpl458]

Anecdotal evidence continues to slowly emerge.

Survey: More than 1-in-5 Mail-In Voters Admit to Cheating in 2020 Election

In the 2020 election, more than 1-in-5 voters who submitted ballots by mail say they did so fraudulently, a survey reveals.

www.breitbart.com

A copy an earlier post that is very relevant: Petition to Recall Newsom

I looked up what the Heartland Institute is and found this. I think hey are a subset of the flat earth society;

The Heartland Institute is an American conservative and libertarian public policy think tank known for its rejection of both the scientific consensus on climate change and the negative health impacts of smoking.[2]

Founded in 1984, it worked with tobacco company Philip Morris throughout the 1990s to attempt to discredit the health risks of secondhand smoke and lobby against smoking bans.[3]: 233–234 [4] Since the 2000s, the Heartland Institute has been a leading promoter of climate change denial.[5][6]

Just the kind of group you should trust. Smoke em if you got em.

 

[NauticalGent]

I looked up what the Heartland Institute is and found this. I think hey are a subset of the flat earth society;

The Heartland Institute is an American conservative and libertarian public policy think tank known for its rejection of both the scientific consensus on climate change and the negative health impacts of smoking.[2]

Founded in 1984, it worked with tobacco company Philip Morris throughout the 1990s to attempt to discredit the health risks of secondhand smoke and lobby against smoking bans.[3]: 233–234 [4] Since the 2000s, the Heartland Institute has been a leading promoter of climate change denial.[5][6]

Just the kind of group you should trust. Smoke em if you got em.

I have no dog in this fight and truth be told, I think 9 times out of 10, you and I would be on opposite of an argument - but I have to give you props for your method of arguing your point. It will be interesting to see how this is responded to!

Just the kind of group you should trust. Smoke em if you got em.

Brilliant!

 

[AccessBlaster]

He did preface with it's "Anecdotal evidence"

 

[Steve R.]

I looked up what the Heartland Institute is and found this. I think hey are a subset of the flat earth society;

The Heartland Institute is an American conservative and libertarian public policy think tank known for its rejection of both the scientific consensus on climate change and the negative health impacts of smoking.[2]

Founded in 1984, it worked with tobacco company Philip Morris throughout the 1990s to attempt to discredit the health risks of secondhand smoke and lobby against smoking bans.[3]: 233–234 [4] Since the 2000s, the Heartland Institute has been a leading promoter of climate change denial.[5][6]

Just the kind of group you should trust. Smoke em if you got em.

Seems that you are making few logical fallacies. The first, you have provided no direct evidence that the study itself is/was actually flawed. You also neglect that the Rasmussen was a participant. So maybe the Heartland Institute is not to your liking, but the involvement of Rasmussen may add credence to the results.

The second logical fallacy is to jump to the erroneous conclusion that because they (as one example) "denied the negative health impacts of smoking" that this particular study must therefore be flawed.

There is also an implication of an Ad hominem attack. That the Heartland Institute is equivalent to "... the flat earth society". That being conservative and libertarian means rejecting science and climate change. Well, science is always incomplete and evolving, that means topics just as climate change are open to further evaluation. The tone of the response to the article, while derogatory does not provide a basis rejecting the results of the study,

Additionally, it is well known that a lot of scientific research is done to inappropriately legitimatize certain things such as smoking and climate change. A lot of scientific research is actually prostitution for money rather than a legitimate search for knowledge.