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FSD = Full Self Driving

I saw this article and had a flash of inspiration, what is FSD?


Tesla has gone its own way in creating software that can drive a car. Instead of using lidar Tesla are now just using cameras plus software to interpret the images.

It's not a straightforward interpretation of the image, the software creates a vector space out of the images. Anything in the space is labelled with a trajectory and it's trajectory can be predicted. A bit like what humans do.

So Tesla are creating full self-driving using cameras against the grain of industry experts, who prefer Lidar.

But again it's Elons genius! I immediately realised when reading the above link where scientists are developing methods of detecting drones, that with very little adaption the Tesla software could be be used in many different situations.

It could be used in security around military bases and eventually around people's homes!

And as I mentioned before, this software running in a big heavy computer system developed for driving a 2 tonne vehicle, will eventually be condensed down to a dedicated chip which will fit nicely into a robot, as already indicated by Elon Musk.

I was amazed at what Google were originally doing with a self-driving car and I've blogged about it in 2013 here is the link:-


I predicted that the Google software for driving a the car would be further developed to go into a robot, my prediction sound but I got the company that would do it wrong!

Elon Elon, Elon, Elon ... I'm Definitely an Elon Fan!!!!
 
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Another thought, Lida is an "active detection" system. It transmits radiation (laser) towards objects. It is similar to radar in that it would be easy for the enemy to identify the source and destroy it. Vision through cameras is passive this would make it very difficult for the enemy to detect.
 
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This YouTube demonstrates FSD Beta learning the ropes!

Well worth a look!

 
Here's another Tesla FSD driving video... Full self driving from start to finish, and a nice piece of music to boot!

Tesla FSD 13.2.8: Venice to Culver City at Night with Zero Interventions​

 
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I'm not convinced we should have FSD cars on a populated roadway. BUT... an automated FSD robotic planetary explorer? That, I could see in a heartbeat.
 
I remember in I, Robot when the rebelling robots turned off everyone's car. That got me thinking!
 
Alfa Romeo’s Take on Self-Driving Cars


Alfa Romeo released this commercial in 2021 as part of their marketing strategy to highlight the brand’s focus on driving pleasure over excessive tech.
By showing a man frustrated with an AI-powered car, the ad cleverly taps into the growing consumer frustration with overly complicated vehicle technology.
The moment he switches to an Alfa Romeo emphasizes the brand’s core message: a simpler, more enjoyable driving experience.

It’s smart marketing, positioning Alfa Romeo as the go-to choice for those who just want to drive.
From: #Technology
 
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growing consumer frustration with overly complicated vehicle technology.
I couldn't agree more. I'd be the first on line to buy a simple no frills car. The less that can break the better. I've had more than my fair share of sport and luxury cars with all the bells and whistles. But things break. I don't want to lose use of my car while I wait for an appointment to get it fixed. I'd rather be able to dive right in and fix it myself in an hour and for 1/3 the price.

As far as self driving cars, No thanks. Apparently tesla has cut the subscription price from $199 a month to $99 a month, again no thanks.
What does the insurance cost?

I recently saw a report about the cyber truck in New England where the stainless steel panels are falling off in the cold as the glue that holds them on is failing.

 
I couldn't agree more. I'd be the first on line to buy a simple no frills car. The less that can break the better. I've had more than my fair share of sport and luxury cars with all the bells and whistles. But things break. I don't want to lose use of my car while I wait for an appointment to get it fixed. I'd rather be able to dive right in and fix it myself in an hour and for 1/3 the price.

As far as self driving cars, No thanks. Apparently tesla has cut the subscription price from $199 a month to $99 a month, again no thanks.
What does the insurance cost?

I recently saw a report about the cyber truck in New England where the stainless steel panels are falling off in the cold as the glue that holds them on is failing.

I was just thinking this today. Too many products have become "high tech" ALL 'round, with zero offerings for those who want a cheaper option.
Example, every new vehicle having a backup camera. But some of these things happen because with every possibility the regulators get starry eyed and begin demanding it be included on all new cars.
To some extent the manufacturers seem to think that everyone would like every new vehicle to be "loaded" - and maybe they are right, maybe it's just me.
But I'd love to have them remove a half dozen high tech stuff from a car and entry level it at $17k. In other countries they still do. But I'd like the vehicles to still meet USA crash standards from a mechanical/structural perspective.


Then on top of that they leave off the common sense stuff like a spare tire and a cupholder. :rolleyes:
 
But I'd love to have them remove a half dozen high tech stuff from a car and entry level it at $17k. In other countries they still do. But I'd like the vehicles to still meet USA crash standards from a mechanical/structural perspective.
The GPS/sound system for my car goes for $4,000 installed by the dealer. A similar after market solution is closer to $500. It's like those cost accounting systems we were talking about in a different thread where the hospital tries to bill you $5,000 or each CatScan when the local imaging center will do it for far less than $1,000.
 
As far as self driving cars, No thanks.

Completely agree. A Tesla in our area in self-driving mode failed to merge out of a lane that was ending. Drove up on the curb and had a close encounter with a pole. Never slowed down or swerved.

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Re:- Tesla Deaths link (www.tesladeaths.com)

Excellent proof of Tesla's safety record, thanks Moke!!! --- Tesla’s 75 times safer

Lists 647 deaths tied to Tesla crashes over the years, from drivers to pedestrians. Big number at first glance, but here’s the kicker: Tesla’s clocked over 30 *billion* miles globally. That’s 0.02 deaths per million miles. U.S. average for all cars? 1.5 deaths per million (NHTSA). Tesla’s 75 times safer by that math. Even Autopilot’s 54 deaths barely dent the stats. Meanwhile, regular cars rack up thousands of deaths yearly—1,800 in snowy crashes alone. The data’s not hiding anything; it’s showing Tesla’s ahead of the game.
 
Down side is a Tesla will still drive into a wall, but the auto drive turns OFF just before hitting.
Hey Mark_, thanks for sharing that Electrek piece on the Tesla Autopilot test. It’s sparked some buzz, but let’s dig into it. The video from Mark Rober didn’t test Tesla’s Full Self-Driving (FSD)—it used basic Autopilot, an older driver-assist system not designed for complex obstacle avoidance like FSD is.

Raw footage shows Autopilot was engaged but disengaged a split second before hitting that fake wall, which is consistent with its design to hand control back in tricky scenarios. Problem is, the video’s title and framing blur that line, suggesting Tesla’s latest tech failed when it wasn’t even in play.

Worth noting too: the video heavily features Luminar, a top LiDAR maker, who supplied the competing vehicle. While Rober says it wasn’t a paid promo, Luminar’s logo is all over it, and they initially hyped the video on their site before pulling back after pushback. X users have flagged this as a potential bias—LiDAR tech getting a spotlight while Tesla’s camera-based approach takes the hit.

Tesla’s logged over 30 billion miles, with a fatality rate of 0.02 deaths per million miles (Tesla Deaths data), crushing the U.S. average of 1.5 (NHTSA). FSD’s crash stats are even better than Autopilot’s, per Tesla’s reports. This test? A staged edge case that doesn’t reflect real-world use.
 

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