Gun laws do they work

I don't get it. Are you people saving I made up all those statics? Are saying all this crime doesn’t happen where you live?

It's about applying your actual, real-time experience to your life and not relying on figures or media to supply that experience for you.

I've never experienced gun crime in my town but I do know it happens occasionally through the local paper. However I know when driving to town, by personal experience, I will have a 50/50 chance of an oncoming vehicle crossing the center yellow line through one of

1) Cell phone use
2) Looking at wildlife
3) Local logging company
4) Incapacitated through health or drugs

That's the actual reality I experience. I don't own a gun, I do drive very defensively.

The chances of me causing an accidental death through paranoia are extremely remote because I base my behavior on my actual experience not what some-one else is telling me I'm experiencing.
 
Here is why I think it is a false analogy.

The use of a car is filled with legislation and supervision. Driving tests, seatbelts, speed limits, speed cameras, traffic cops, road markings, car insurance, laws of the road, car maintenance, no cell phones. The laws and supervision governing car use are very strict.

Compare that to home gun ownership and you'll see where I'm coming from. I can buy a shot gun from the local Walmart and away I go. No training required. I won't be challenged on my ownership either if my eyesight fails.

You talk of responsibility and yet we had an individual on this very thread saying he would arm himself against Colin. How does anyone supporting gun ownership account for this?

The reason to arm is fear. Fear makes you unstable. Fear and responsibility are not good bed partners.

Excellent Point! I also applauded you expressing your point of view without name calling. I agree whole hardly there should be better checking of who buys a gun. I agree that there people out there that have a cow over any restriction. I am in favor or some checking, just don’t try and take away my guns, if I prove myself competent. When I was 15 before I could get a hunting license I had to take a safety course. It should be the same for adults. I also agree that there are people who arm them self that are paranoid, but not all. I haven’t had the time for a long time to target practice, but if I did it would not be for paranoia. Not that I would not shoot someone if I was threaten.
 
. I also agree that there are people who arm them self that are paranoid, but not all. I haven’t had the time for a long time to target practice, but if I did it would not be for paranoia. Not that I would not shoot someone if I was threaten.
But that's where the problem is. People who suffer from paranoia genuinely feel they are threatened even when there is no real threat. I agree with Dan-Cat that there is no need for people to carry arms to protect their property. To me one of the marks of a civilised society is that the police are able to provide protection to honest law-abiding citizens.

As for guns held for hunting purposes these should be subject to an annual licence that includes passing a competency test so that when the weapon is used the firer knows where the bullet will finish up.
 
But that's where the problem is. People who suffer from paranoia genuinely feel they are threatened even when there is no real threat. I agree with Dan-Cat that there is no need for people to carry arms to protect their property. To me one of the marks of a civilised society is that the police are able to provide protection to honest law-abiding citizens.

About three years ago my wife and I who has MS and I were parked five feet from the front door of a church in Austin, TX. At 2:00 A.M vandals started beating on the side of our RV. I yelled out the window that I was calling the police, which I did. The police came, and of course, they were gone. They returned. I called the police, they left. Three times I called the police. They eventually smashed my windshield, and I had to alter my scheduled a week to get it repaired. If they tried to come thru the door, I would have shot them. Do you really think I am paranoid for carrying a gun.
 
I think that I will quit this thread before I say something that will get me banned.

Brian
 
But that's where the problem is. People who suffer from paranoia genuinely feel they are threatened even when there is no real threat. I agree with Dan-Cat that there is no need for people to carry arms to protect their property. To me one of the marks of a civilised society is that the police are able to provide protection to honest law-abiding citizens.

About three years ago my wife and I who has MS and I were parked five feet from the front door of a church in Austin, TX. At 2:00 A.M vandals started beating on the side of our RV. I yelled out the window that I was calling the police, which I did. The police came, and of course, they were gone. They returned. I called the police, they left. Three times I called the police. They eventually smashed my windshield, and I had to alter my scheduled a week to get it repaired. If they tried to come thru the door, I would have shot them. Do you really think I am paranoid for carrying a gun.

YOu outlined a car could be used as a weapon. Couldnt you have just run them over? Or maybe more reasonably used the car defensively and driven off?

Out of interest what was the context of hanging round outside a church in a car at 2 am ?
 
About three years ago my wife and I who has MS.

Wheelchair bound yet or still a bit mobile? Sadly it'll only get worse, MS will ruin both your lives in due course. Divorce or death is the only way out for the non-sufferer. Trust me, been living with it for years.

Col
 
YOu outlined a car could be used as a weapon. Couldnt you have just run them over? Or maybe more reasonably used the car defensively and driven off?

Out of interest what was the context of hanging round outside a church in a car at 2 am ?

You must have missed that our RV was parked outside the church not our auto. (RV was what they were beating on) There reason I was parked there I had a meeting there the next morning. For davep, yes a RV is a camper, and if anyone is interested the attachment had a pic of the RV with my pick up next to it, that I tow behind the RV, and a lift with my wife on it that brings her up and down.

 

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