If all fails the user must just click on the asterisk(*) to add a new new. MajP your Add new works, but the new record is not selected or have a blue bar on it to accept data immediately. That is what I want, when you say add new, a new record must be added and the whole record must be selected which means it must have the blue bar or selected at the same time. This is what i have been asking from the very start. Those interested in still helping me are most welcome. I try out all code people is suggesting.