Is it Actually Racist?

[The_Doc_Man]

Not sure Ebs17 would agree. Apparently all my statements are nonsense and wasted time with no real meaning.
Col

When PAT is on your side for that statement, Col, don't worry about what some others think.

 

[jpl458]

Yes, blame the victim. As long as they did it to themselves, it is not my f**king problem. A common and seductive argument. Like the woman wouldn't have got raped if she didn't wear a short skirt and the little black boy wouldn't have got shot in the back if he hadn't run from the cops.

Well said.

 

[Isaac]

Transgender cyclists once again take gold and silver at major female competition: ‘Outrageous’

Two transgender cyclists have once again snagged first and second place at a women’s competition — with some now calling their victories “infuriating.”

nypost.com

No wonder democrats have started to let this issue go - it's not a winning one for them, pun intended.

"And in other news today, common sense didn't even place near a win..."

 

[Isaac]

Yes, blame the victim. As long as they did it to themselves, it is not my f**king problem. A common and seductive argument. Like the woman wouldn't have got raped if she didn't wear a short skirt and the little black boy wouldn't have got shot in the back if he hadn't run from the cops.

Whoa. Those are two weird things to conflate.

You're supposed to get shot if you try to assault a cop, or if just before turning to run you pull out a gun and start to turn around.
Umm..Yeah. You should get shot - that's the whole point of police. You do what they say, or you experience force. Period.

Children may be different, but not when they are 12 yr old gangsters literally beginning to raise a gun towards you. Then it's just another person about to shoot at you.

Actually even your first argument is a tired old trope: Equate all incidents where someone points out that people who dress to get attention or in a promiscuous way are fools for complaining about the attention they just requested - to victim blaming.

I can chew gum and walk at the same time. A woman is not responsible for her ra**, but if you walk down the street in your underwear, you're an idiot, and I'll stil point it out (Col, you excluded - if you did it we'd know you were just trying to make us laugh!)

Do you call every person who advises you to lock your car doors, carjacking victim blamers?

This is a favorite trick of the progressives. Try to invent some new shameful term, (like "victim blaming"), then attach it just every thing they possibly can, even things that make no sense when you step back and look at it

 

[Uncle Gizmo]

selectively blaming the ills of slavery in the US

The islamic state historically took American sailors in to slavery.

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[DickyP]

So what counts as racism? I was in my local Morrison's supermarket when they had a promotion on West Indian food, which as I dislike fruit with meat I'm not really fond of although there are plenty of West Indian dishes I do quite like. I mentioned to my wife in passing that I didn't really like West Indian food generally and young man of about 20ish at the same shelves, told me I was a "racist b*****d".

 

[DickyP]

Where do I sign up for my reparations?

The thing I've never understood about reparations mostly related to slavery is all the demands are made to us the buyers of the slaves, and not to Ghana, Benin, Nigeria and the rest of west Africa who Sold the slaves? They are as, if not more, guilty.

Same with apologies - why would I apologise? I wasn't in any way responsible for things that happened 200 years ago, and if I'd been alive then I would have probably gone along with it like anyone else. Any apology is pointless.

 

[AngelSpeaks]

So what counts as racism? I was in my local Morrison's supermarket when they had a promotion on West Indian food, which as I dislike fruit with meat I'm not really fond of although there are plenty of West Indian dishes I do quite like. I mentioned to my wife in passing that I didn't really like West Indian food generally and young man of about 20ish at the same shelves, told me I was a "rasist b*****d".

My husband would have told him to f off and mind his own business. You can dislike the foods of another country or ethnic group and not be racist. Some use specific spices that some people can't stomach.

 

[DickyP]

My husband would have told him to f off and mind his own business.

I did - remarkably politely all things considered.

 

[Isaac]

So what counts as racism? I was in my local Morrison's supermarket when they had a promotion on West Indian food, which as I dislike fruit with meat I'm not really fond of although there are plenty of West Indian dishes I do quite like. I mentioned to my wife in passing that I didn't really like West Indian food generally and young man of about 20ish at the same shelves, told me I was a "racist b*****d".

Indeed the word has been expanded in its definition. I think of racism as just generally disliking, or hating, or acting negatively towards, a person ONLY because of their race. That said, making observations about characteristics you have witnessed about any race is not in itself racism.

For example, Whites have a higher rate of male suicide and car accidents. is that racism to say?

 

[AngelSpeaks]

Indeed the word has been expanded in its definition. I think of racism as just generally disliking, or hating, or acting negatively towards, a person ONLY because of their race. That said, making observations about characteristics you have witnessed about any race is not in itself racism.

For example, Whites have a higher rate of male suicide and car accidents. is that racism to say?

You can say anything derogatory about whites, especially men, and get a standing ovation.

 

[Pat Hartman]

So what counts as racism?

Racism is whatever a racist says it is because it is only an actual racist who sees race everywhere. To a racist, if I disagree with a black person, I am a racist. The person I'm disagreeing with is more likely to perceive me as treating him as an equal and worthy of having a disagreement with therefore I am not being a racist.

 

[Dick7Access]

Racism is whatever a racist says it is because it is only an actual racist who sees race everywhere. To a racist, if I disagree with a black person, I am a racist. The person I'm disagreeing with is more likely to perceive me as treating him as an equal and worthy of having a disagreement with therefore I am not being a racist.

Pat Hartman for president

 

[The_Doc_Man]

Don't you realize, Dick, that she is automatically disqualified from being President.

She can actually think for herself.

 

[AngelSpeaks]

Pat Hartman for president

Hey Dick, I already nominated Pat the other day!

 

[NauticalGent]

You can say anything derogatory about whites, especially men, and get a standing ovation.

My generation finds it funny, we can laugh at ourselves, for the most part.

The younger generation takes it because they think they deserve it.

 

[The_Doc_Man]

The really sad part, NG, is that if they willingly take it, they DO deserve it.

 

[ColinEssex]

, but if you walk down the street in your underwear, you're an idiot, and I'll stil point it out (Col, you excluded - if you did it we'd know you were just trying to make us laugh)

How did you hear about that?
It was in the 1970's and there was a gang of us - all absolutely ratassed, it was a stag night. Actually we met up with the hen party and they stripped to bra and pants, quite a night as I recall.
Col

 

[GaP42]

Racism is whatever a racist says it is because it is only an actual racist who sees race everywhere. To a racist, if I disagree with a black person, I am a racist. The person I'm disagreeing with is more likely to perceive me as treating him as an equal and worthy of having a disagreement with therefore I am not being a racist.

If that is a working definition of racism then I understand why it is considered that racists often have no conception / are blind to what racism is. Very pleased there is no chance of running for President.

 

[The_Doc_Man]

If that is a working definition of racism then I understand why it is considered that racists often have no conception / are blind to what racism is. Very pleased there is no chance of running for President.

The thing that always gets to me is that I am accused of racism by black people but they then deny that black people can EVER be racist. Sorry, but if the definition includes a race filter regarding who CAN be racist then by definition it is ITSELF a racist statement. Actually, no I'm NOT sorry to have stated it that way. I call 'em as I see 'em and I see racism lurking in your comment, @GaP42.

The whole problem with racism, sexism, genderism, pick-your-favorite-ism is that it becomes an attempt to pigeon-hole someone into a category and then judge the category, when in fact EACH of us is an individual with individual likes and dislikes. All of those -isms are examples of trying to judge a book by its cover, which generally qualifies as either stupidity or laziness or both.

Speaking generically now: Racism is just another way of saying you are unwilling to forgive someone for not looking like YOUR ideal person. It includes not forgiving someone for making non-violent life choices different from yours.

It is sometimes easier to make generalizations that end up sounding like racism. It is very difficult to avoid that behavior because our minds evolved to classify threats quickly in hopes that we could avoid danger quicker. It IS a survival trait derived from our saurian ancestry, in which we learned to be territorial. We learned to strive for the ascendency of me-and-mine over thee-and-thine because that is our genetic imperative of survival of the species. In our more modern society, we need to learn to curb that flash judgment even though it IS the way that early Man learned to survive. Today that instinct has become detrimental and we need to learn how to suppress it or at least control it.

NOTE: Teaching "Critical Race Theory" is not the way to do that. All it does is exchange one scapegoat for another.