Trump Administration Predictions

[Isaac]

I think Trump will do very little with tariffs and all of people's paranoia about it will be for naught. He will use it as a negotiating tool, as he should, but perhaps not much else than that. Or he will experiment briefly and then quit.

+1 on that

 

[Isaac]

He visited significant damage to steel last time by adding tariffs to "supply chain

Big steel just a few days ago came out with an announcement supporting what he is doing with tariffs

 

[Thales750]

Big steel just a few days ago came out with an announcement supporting what he is doing with tariffs

OK so what? What are the consequences to other parties, to the supply chain? Of course big steel liked it. It feeds their greed.

 

[Isaac]

OK so what? What are the consequences to other parties, to the supply chain? Of course big steel liked it. It feeds their greed.

I thought you said it would hurt and kill a big steel?

 

[Thales750]

I thought you said it would hurt and kill a big steel?

What I thought I was saying is that the lower down the supply chain, the more the overall economy experiences compound greed and inflation from the bottom of the chain up.

When you put the tariffs on raw, or nearly raw, materials; every value added from that point upward adds gross profit to the original tariffs. It's a greed tree.

The end of American steel dominance in the late seventies was triggered by the reduction of steel tariffs. That simply led to the steel companies, and all the rest of the financial sector, moving their investments to Asia.

 

[AccessBlaster]

What I thought I was saying is that the lower down the supply chain, the more the overall economy experiences compound greed and inflation from the bottom of the chain up.

When you put the tariffs on raw, or nearly raw, materials; every value added from that point upward adds gross profit to the original tariffs. It's a greed tree.

The end of American steel dominance in the late seventies was triggered by the reduction of steel tariffs. That simply led to the steel companies, and all the rest of the financial sector, moving their investments to Asia.

Are you Kamala's secret speech writer

 

[The_Doc_Man]

Are you Kamala's secret speech writer

Thales750 might have some questionable attitudes, but I'll give him this. His discourse could NEVER be mistaken for Kamala's word salad. We might disagree with him, but he is at least literate and coherent in what he is saying.

Or, stated another way: IF he is Kamala's speech writer then it incidentally proves that she cannot read either.

 

[Pat Hartman]

OK so what? What are the consequences to other parties, to the supply chain? Of course big steel liked it. It feeds their greed.

The Chinese destroyed our steel industry by exporting cheap steel. And we allowed it. Do you suppose the Chinese will be happy to continue to supply that cheap steel that we need to build warships to beef up our Pacific fleet so we can actually defend Taiwan if they invade? Allowing foreign powers to destroy industries critical to natural security is downright suicidal and we will likely pay a steep price for your silly ideas.

 

[Thales750]

The Chinese destroyed our steel industry by exporting cheap steel. And we allowed it. Do you suppose the Chinese will be happy to continue to supply that cheap steel that we need to build warships to beef up our Pacific fleet so we can actually defend Taiwan if they invade? Allowing foreign powers to destroy industries critical to natural security is downright suicidal and we will likely pay a steep price for your silly ideas.

You could drive a battle ship through the holes in your discourse.

 

[Thales750]

Are you Kamala's secret speech writer

Have you ever considered looking at economic conditions without the voice of the talking heads guiding your thoughts?

Fist off, I agree and support tariffs. 2nd, as Pat improperly tried to explain, the Chinese have been using financial instruments and tax laws since the early 90s to infiltrate the US market. This all didn't happen in a vacuum.


Ask yourself this question, and then see if the LLMs can help you with it. Why did the Japanese economy take so long to recover from the crash in the 90s. Hint, it is related to what we are discussing.

 

[Thales750]

The Chinese destroyed our steel industry by exporting cheap steel. And we allowed it. Do you suppose the Chinese will be happy to continue to supply that cheap steel that we need to build warships to beef up our Pacific fleet so we can actually defend Taiwan if they invade? Allowing foreign powers to destroy industries critical to natural security is downright suicidal and we will likely pay a steep price for your silly ideas.

Long before the Chinese industrial base came into being, the Japanese were on their way to doing that. Unlike the Chinese though, they did it with higher quality steel at competitive prices.

You should probably do research separate from the propaganda talking heads you are addicted too. American Navel Vessels are made from American Steel.

We do however, get much or our life sustaining medication from them. And the majority of our personal computing devices.

Why haven't you said one positive word about the Chip Act enacted during Biden's Admin? Maybe you don't understand what it is suppose to fix.

 

[AccessBlaster]

Have you ever considered looking at economic conditions without the voice of the talking heads guiding your thoughts?

Fist off, I agree and support tariffs. 2nd, as Pat improperly tried to explain, the Chinese have been using financial instruments and tax laws since the early 90s to infiltrate the US market. This all didn't happen in a vacuum.


Ask yourself this question, and then see if the LLMs can help you with it. Why did the Japanese economy take so long to recover from the crash in the 90s. Hint, it is related to what we are discussing.

Tariffs could be a problem if abused, but the waste in other sectors like USAID funding is actually happening as we speak.

Nearly all mainstream media - WORLDWIDE - has been funded by the US government under USAID No wonder they all repeat the same things! -Ron Paul

 

[Thales750]

Tariffs could be a problem if abused, but the waste in other sectors like USAID funding is actually happening as we speak.

Nearly all mainstream media - WORLDWIDE - has been funded by the US government under USAID No wonder they all repeat the same things! -Ron Paul

That's so funny, and completely incorrect on so many levels.

 

[AccessBlaster]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1888294225193926979

 

[AccessBlaster]

That's so funny, and completely incorrect on so many levels.

It's interesting how the left keeps trotting out the ancient ones Maxine Waters and Chuck Schumer to battle Elon Musk and his young associates. They don't seem equipped with the mental capacity to understand what's actually happening.

 

[Pat Hartman]

We do however, get much or our life sustaining medication from them. And the majority of our personal computing devices.

And you think this is a good idea? Why? The Chinese probably have already corrupted every electronic device we all use and they can bring us to our knees by denying to sell us basic drug ingredients. Do you think they don't know how to break into iPhones? They make them. Duh! The Britts should have gone to China to request their back door not to Apple. No matter. Apple will concede and even the US phones will now be insecure because the British stupidly insisted on a back door.

 

[ColinEssex]

Only one 't' in Brits.
Col

 

[The_Doc_Man]

This "mandatory back door" stuff was going on for PCs and MAC/Apple desktops well before I retired - at least 15+ years ago.

 

[Thales750]

And you think this is a good idea? Why? The Chinese probably have already corrupted every electronic device we all use and they can bring us to our knees by denying to sell us basic drug ingredients. Do you think they don't know how to break into iPhones? They make them. Duh! The Britts should have gone to China to request their back door not to Apple. No matter. Apple will concede and even the US phones will now be insecure because the British stupidly insisted on a back door.

I think it's funny how you completely misunderstand, and misrepresent, pretty much every word I write. It is quite a challenge to confront such a level of obtusity.
I guess you must take some perverse pleasure in twisting everything I say into something that is flawed and needs correcting.

I have lost any hope of witnessing any kind of an epiphany from you, but don't worry, I will endeavor to persevere.

To continue to play your silly little game. Of course I don't think having the Chinese make our meds or our computers is a good thing. long before you were even aware that there was a serious threat from China, I was writing, or talking, about it. Many of the folks I was talking to were in denial, now that Trump has brought it to the attention of the Cool Aid crowd , y'all all act like you known all this for years. And of course, the whole thing is the product of having Democrats in office.

Does that about sum it up?

 

[Thales750]

This "mandatory back door" stuff was going on for PCs and MAC/Apple desktops well before I retired - at least 15+ years ago.

No doubt. While we all sit around being distracted by arguing over same sex marriage, they have been collecting all of our secrets.

It's ok though, look at all the American billionaires that were create by selling out the country.