The front ends used by the church seem to be quite corrupt through extensive reworking of the code.
And that is the reason why the atheism Vs supernatural discussion gets nowhere when discussed at the Christianity or Islam end of things.
The front ends used by the church seem to be quite corrupt through extensive reworking of the code.
so you're saying that people created God because life meant nothing to them otherwise, right?
does that mean that your son or daughter was conceived because otherwise, life would mean nothing to you?
And that is the reason why the atheism Vs supernatural discussion gets nowhere when discussed at the Christianity or Islam end of things.
True. Also there's the explanation angle. Not knowing how/why things happen is unnerving to some and unacceptable to many. When we (i.e. people in general) knew less about everything, this was far more commonplace.Mankind has always needed something to worship/blame/hope for so it does invent gods and then religions, usually they are designed by man who want power and control over others, especially women.
Nature has designed all living things with the urge to procreate.
Brian
This suggests to me that religion is a manmade attempt to explain what is currently unknown.
Mike, I have come over from the Atheist Foundation of Australia's forums, just to ask where one of our posters has claimed the moon landing is a hoax, apart from one poster "asking", by way of a joke).
I think your username on our forums may have been MikeM. A user by that name was expelled for circular reasoning, unsupportable claims, and general unpleasantness.
Mike, I agree. That question asks to judge two faces of the same coin.
Do not assume that atheism precludes spirituality.
Mike
Could I ask you not to keep using the F.... word, it may be ok in Oz but is generally not used in mixed society in Britain and I would hate to see you banned again.
Brian
LOL
just don't want people taking offense rather than debating, you guys are causing us enough problems in Perth.
Brian
It will for the true atheist.
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Mike you clearly misundestand the meaning of atheism. The opposite of atheisim is theism which is the belief in at least one deity. Spirtuality does not have to involve a deity at all.
I was thinking of spirituality in terms of mental telepathy, which I believe in 100% but atheist will not agree.
You still don't understand. There is nothing about telepathic communication that requires belief in a deity. It is possible that such a phenomonon does exist but as yet the mechanism involved has not been found.
Do you think God sits there at the exchange plugging leads when connections are requested?
My scepticism about telepathy has nothing to do with my lack of belief in any deity. I have found that many of my agnostic and religous friends also do not think that telepathy exists so I fail to understand the point you are making. Perhaps you could explain it more fully?Agree completely. However, it is laughed at by atheists and with the standard "do you have documented proof etc. and etc."