NauticalGent
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Think I'll go with the beer...
When I start to read both sides which are represented by equally qualified "experts", my eyes start to cross and my head begins to spin.
At one time the Sahara was a savanna, what is now the Southern United States had two growing seasons (about the same time Erik the Red started getting people to immigrate to "Greenland") .
Truth be told, the climate changes on this planet and we can't stop it from doing so. Only a very self important narcissist would make claim such as this. We can identify factors that contribute to warming or cooling. We can't stop this behavior though, at least until someone can arrange for solar weather to be controlled.
I am a tad skeptical of those who trade on fear though, so if you make your money by selling "Carbon Credits" after prostlytizing about an ice-less Arctic, I see you as having just as vested an interest in selling "Climate change" as oil companies have in denying it.
Likewise I'm as skeptical of "Science" paid for by a given industry, even if said industry is "Green".
Methane comes from bovine exhalation associated with rumination (in this case, the literal biological meaning of that word) and termite farts from fallen, wet trees being broken down in rain forests. More methane is emitted from those two sources than from all transportation-related (man-made) sources combined in the whole world. The ocean also emits methane as it bubbles up from deep sources. Our Earth is a giant methane maker. It puts us to shame in terms of how much it creates.
You know what comes between ice ages? THAWING ages where things get warmer. And those prior situations occurred world wide and without Man's industrial-economic manufacturing emissions to drive it.
Juries don't convict on "balance of probability." They convict on certainty.
The reason those pollution sources are growing with increased intensity is because the world's population is growing. They are DEMANDING more products and energy.
So... which nations are we going to penalize by saying "You can't have any more" or "you can't make any more" or "you can't consume any more" ???
The US is by far the greater per capita polluter and should be shouldering the largest load, not as Trump is doing, and favouring old dirty technologies because his cronies have investments in it.
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So you have the ego to say man can control the weather? You have the ego to think you can dictate how the sun acts?
I never posted that we don't impact climate, more I posted that we have ignorant people who think man is the ONLY source of climate change. So are you one of the ignorant fanatics who think only MAN impacts climate or are you reasonable enough to acknowledge there are other factors at play?
Course if you are a true believer you won't accept that a volcano can introduce as much CO2 as a years worth of driving, or that a wild fire can release about a ton worth per tree... Then again there are those who want to quote science without bothering to learn more than just what they've been spoon fed by politicians and the media.
Sadly that gives the impression (rightly or wrongly) that the American populace cares nothing for environmental issues.
...it would be a pity for no skin to be on show.
In a country where any major attempt to reduce greenhouse emissions has the side effect of damaging the economy (by costing more money to replace the old methods with newer ones),