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As an independent and a moderate, I would like to see an economy that favors the working people, I don't think that another Trump debacle is going to achieve that, but if it does, then great. That will give me a chance to revise my long term view of the deleterious effects of Trickle Down. We do have almost 45 years of evidence of it not working, and 80 years of other evidence showing that Republicans are really pretty bad for the country's economy overall.

"The Democratic presidents were in office for a total of 429 months, with 164,000 jobs per month added on average, while the Republicans were in office for 475 months, with a 61,000 jobs added per month average. This monthly average rate was 2.4 times faster under Democratic presidents."

Dems vs Repubs in Economic Indicators.
I assume you're including the false so-called "gain" of bounce back jobs from covid.
Useless metric
 
I assume you're including the false so-called "gain" of bounce back jobs from covid.
Useless metric
This was until 2020. Give it a read, that's been common knowledge for a while now.
 
You may want to pace yourself, it could be a very long time before another Bernie Sanders comes along 😉
I really don't have any feelings about this. Short of a global conflict, the country will survive. The world that we knew is pretty much behind us. I've been designing a robotic system, along with millions os other people. The concept of working to have a better life is worn out. Trumpland will have a new to deal with it. Excessive capitalism is not going to save the people.
You'll see.
Burnie Sanders' will becoming out of the woodwork. Maybe Elon can fund the soup lines.
 
I don't put my beliefs, or my ego, in front of the wellbeing of the nation. I leave that to you.
Trump is what is best for the nation. Look what the Trump effect has already caused:
1. Hezbollah negotiated a ceasefire
2. Mexico agreed to close our southern border so the caravans will be stopped on their side of the border leaving it to be their problem to send the illegals home.
3. Canada has agreed to "help" with the northern border.
4. Trump has been nominated for the Peace prize he earned during his first term. We'll see if he gets it. If Obama could win for being President while being black, Trump certainly deserves to win for the Abraham accords and what is already transpiring now between Russia and Ukraine and with the terrorists attacking Israel.
Pure Fascism going after his enemies.
HIS enemies????????????? What are you smoking? Mexico was aiding and abetting the drug cartels to flood us with drugs and illegal aliens to drain our welfare state.
 
The concept of working to have a better life is worn out.
I guess you are not a SciFi fan. Lots of stories about what happens to humans after the robots take over. None of it is pretty. It seems that humans actually need to strive to survive. Look at what happens to the wealth after the second generation. Offspring become deletants and just fritter it away. That is no way to live. Star Trek was a "utopia" of sorts and they completely ignored the concept of money by design. I only remember one episode when it came up and that was because they went back to Earth in the past and of course they didn't have any.
 
I guess you are not a SciFi fan. Lots of stories about what happens to humans after the robots take over. None of it is pretty. It seems that humans actually need to strive to survive. Look at what happens to the wealth after the second generation. Offspring become deletants and just fritter it away. That is no way to live. Star Trek was a "utopia" of sorts and they completely ignored the concept of money by design. I only remember one episode when it came up and that was because they went back to Earth in the past and of course they didn't have any.
Wow. You scored more points in brain dead section, by taking what I say out of context. Again.
 
Striking fear into any future whistleblower.
What are you talking about? What whistleblower are you talking about?
They have already been doing that. LOL, Trump gets false credit again.
So, thousands a day is stopping the flow? Little children with notes pinned to their shirts are "immigrants". Surely the Mexicans could have prevented a 2-year old from crossing the border. But no, they passed her on to us so we could continue to traffic her to whoever the cartels are sending her to.
 
Trump is what is best for the nation. Look what the Trump effect has already caused:
1. Hezbollah negotiated a ceasefire
2. Mexico agreed to close our southern border so the caravans will be stopped on their side of the border leaving it to be their problem to send the illegals home.
3. Canada has agreed to "help" with the northern border.
4. Trump has been nominated for the Peace prize he earned during his first term. We'll see if he gets it. If Obama could win for being President while being black, Trump certainly deserves to win for the Abraham accords and what is already transpiring now between Russia and Ukraine and with the terrorists attacking Israel.

HIS enemies????????????? What are you smoking? Mexico was aiding and abetting the drug cartels to flood us with drugs and illegal aliens to drain our welfare state.

It's true that the cartels are in charge of most of the drug production and both the current Mexican president and her predecessor obtador are essentially socialists who have made peace with the cartels.
 
I guess you are not a SciFi fan. Lots of stories about what happens to humans after the robots take over. None of it is pretty. It seems that humans actually need to strive to survive. Look at what happens to the wealth after the second generation. Offspring become deletants and just fritter it away. That is no way to live. Star Trek was a "utopia" of sorts and they completely ignored the concept of money by design. I only remember one episode when it came up and that was because they went back to Earth in the past and of course they didn't have any.
Out of context.
 
What are you talking about? What whistleblower are you talking about?

So, thousands a day is stopping the flow? Little children with notes pinned to their shirts are "immigrants". Surely the Mexicans could have prevented a 2-year old from crossing the border. But no, they passed her on to us so we could continue to traffic her to whoever the cartels are sending her to.
Purposely misrepresenting what I said. I get it that you realized long ago, that your logic is completely flawed, so you resort to obscuration, deflection, and out right deception; no wonder you like Trumpland so much.

Y'all are two peas in a pod.
 
Purposely misrepresenting what I said. I get it that you realized long ago, that your logic is completely flawed, so you resort to obscuration, deflection, and out right deception; no wonder you like Trumpland so much.

I've had ENOUGH of YOUR obfuscation. YOUR logic is the part that leaves us gasping - not with awe but with disbelief. Ask yourself ONE QUESTION. Who won the presidential election?

If you'll take the followup question, ... why do you think that happened?

As part of that followup, ask yourself one more question: Why would things happen that way if everyone was so satisfied with the Progressive Liberal viewpoint and achievements?
 
I've had ENOUGH of YOUR obfuscation. YOUR logic is the part that leaves us gasping - not with awe but with disbelief. Ask yourself ONE QUESTION. Who won the presidential election?

If you'll take the followup question, ... why do you think that happened?

As part of that followup, ask yourself one more question: Why would things happen that way if everyone was so satisfied with the Progressive Liberal viewpoint and achievements?
You're failing to see that just because I don't want Conservatives in office, that somehow automatically translates to me wanting liberals in office. I literally had 0 support for Harris, I just have a huge negative for Conservative Lies and in particular, Trumpland.

You are too brainwashed to understand that we can be against many aspects of conservatism and still be just as far away from the Liberals. You have been trained for the last 40 years to see the world that way. Nothing will change that.

We certainly know who lost the election, Dems lost it. Sadly Hillary and Company sent us down this path. The bitter divorced women of our country finally had a shot at redemption. What better target, for all that hatred, than a guy that publicly brags about grabbing women's privates parts. And yet, no surprise there. Instead of uniting all democrats, she broke them into many pieces and she sent the out-of-work industrial workers to the Right, something that had never happened in the entire 20th century.

To answer the question; I know why it happened, Democrats don't have a unified message, and they will go after their own, if they sway even a little from their personal version of a Woke world, paving the way for Republicans to win key elections, repeatedly. Sadly though, too many of the Republicans in Offices currently are Right Wing Whack Jobs.

Third question, as usual you think somehow that I support a liberal agendas, so you ask me leading question trying to prove that everyone outside of the Far Right is a Liberal. You think I'm either going to come to Harris' defense or cry havoc and let slip dogs of defeat. Haha you thought I was going to quote Mark Antony (a persona from the mind of Bill). Sorry about that, made you look.

All that trained contempt and belief comes from being saturated with morning Rush hour Rush and his disciples.

The answer (to #3), is not very many people, including Independents like myself, are happy with the Woke agenda. Dems had their chance in 2016 to win the deindustrialized, and failed. Now they have been indoctrinated into conservatism and it's so easy to blame those "libtards".

Some times I hesitate to answer these accusation posed as questions, knowing that the meaning will be butchered by you or Pat into some only people your extreme right views would cheer about. I am in the middle you are own the Far Right Extreme.

"By the way, I ask you considerably more thought provoking questions than you ask me, and here you are still boring us with questions a 7th grader would discuss in their civics class, and not even AP classes at that." I couldn't decide if this last sentence was some kind of "Market Garden" I wouldn't want to miss this opportunity to see who can piss of the one worse. If it was too far, just ignore it. :p

I would say recently, I'm winning. You are showing signs of frustration.
 
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as usual you think somehow that I support a liberal agendas

You certainly present that appearance. I congratulate you on your acting skills but, unfortunately, have no academy trophy to award you.

All that trained contempt and belief comes from being saturated with morning Rush hour Rush and his disciples.

Never actually was a fan of Rush. I felt he went too far. I once heard him admit over live broadcast that he was all bombast simply to attract attention. Therefore, IF I turned on the local station that carried Rush, it was for the weather and traffic reports.

I would say recently, I'm winning.

I will state this as clearly as I can. This was never a winnable contest. I support your right to have and express your views. However, if you claim that you are differentiable from Liberals, I must say that you are losing in the "clarity of message" category. With due respect, I don't read you the way you seem to think you are writing.

I am reminded of Murphy's variant on interpersonal communications: "I know you think you understand what you thought I said but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant." (Credited to Alan Greenspan.)
 
What better target, for all that hatred, than a guy that publicly brags about grabbing women's privates parts
The same thing was said about Bill Clinton, his antics while Governor of Arkansas were legend, his disrespect of the oval office with Monica was embarrassing. But in the final analyst nobody cared, he remains a beloved member of the democrat party and is trotted out like a conquering hero whenever needed. And nobody really cares about Trump boasting about grabbing women. It's all just theater, a momentary distraction from our ordinary life.
 
You certainly present that appearance. I congratulate you on your acting skills but, unfortunately, have no academy trophy to award you.



Never actually was a fan of Rush. I felt he went too far. I once heard him admit over live broadcast that he was all bombast simply to attract attention. Therefore, IF I turned on the local station that carried Rush, it was for the weather and traffic reports.



I will state this as clearly as I can. This was never a winnable contest. I support your right to have and express your views. However, if you claim that you are differentiable from Liberals, I must say that you are losing in the "clarity of message" category. With due respect, I don't read you the way you seem to think you are writing.

I am reminded of Murphy's variant on interpersonal communications: "I know you think you understand what you thought I said but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant." (Credited to Alan Greenspan.)
Out of context as usual. Can you still read English? The contest I'm wining here is that you are more frustrated than I am.
 

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