ColinEssex
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How about Kuwait? Or is that American.OK, substitute someplace the Britts haven't invaded.
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How about Kuwait? Or is that American.OK, substitute someplace the Britts haven't invaded.
No. I think Israel, US and the EU are guilty of the genocide of the Palestinians.@Edgar_ : Your position boils down to: "We (Palestinians) perceive ourselves as being oppressed. Therefore we are entitled to commit genocide against our oppressors (Israel) as a righteous war."
That's an euphemism. "Leave" is not what you do at gun point resulting in you keeping a "strip" of your own land. That also didn't occur in 1948, that's when the biggest offending result came up.The Palestinians who left Israel in 1948 did so because they were informed by their religious leaders
You can believe whatever makes you happier, or angrier, but Israel and its mates are responsible for the genocide of the Palestinians. That includes, but it is not limited to: old peope, women, teenagers, children, REAL innocent newborn babies (not propaganda products) and, last but not least, men. And it didn't start just a week ago.Yes, all those missiles sent to Israel could just be propaganda from the Israelis, and the images are all just AI generated.
I agree that we should not believe everything we are told, but it does not mean we cannot have strong beliefs and that weak beliefs are superior.
No. I think Israel, US and the EU are guilty of the genocide of the Palestinians.
In case you missed it, post #134
- Where are the manifestos calling for the genocide of the Palestinians in the US and Europe? The Palestinians have a mission statement calling for the genocide of the Jews.
- Seems there are massive pro-Palestinian rallies in both the US and Europe. How can that be, if the US and Europe are practicing genocide of Palestinians? Why aren't they being deported? Where are the prisons for holding the Palestinians? Any video footage of massive arrests and beatings of Palestinians?
- None of their "brother" Islamic states wish to accept them as refuges to save the Palestinians. Seems that they want the Palestinians to be used as cannon fodder for the propaganda value. That is not very humanitarian of them, yet the Islamic states accuse the west of being inhumane.
That answers nothing.
The extremists believe the same as you, hence the recent murders in the UK, France (stabbed teacher), and Swedish football fans. Also in Egypt where a police officer shot two Israeli tourists. They justify their actions by suggesting the West together with Israel are responsible and are therefore justifiable targets. The Nazi's would also agree with you, since they had a pathological hatred of Jews, wherever they may reside.You can believe whatever makes you happier, or angrier, but Israel and its mates are responsible for the genocide of the Palestinians. That includes, but it is not limited to: old peope, women, teenagers, children, REAL innocent newborn babies (not propaganda products) and, last but not least, men. And it didn't start just a week ago.
'The Day of Judgment will not come about until Moslems fight Jews and kill them. Then, the Jews will hide behind rocks and trees, and the rocks and trees will cry out: 'O Moslem, there is a Jew hiding behind me, come and kill him.'
Source: https://irp.fas.org/world/para/docs/880818a.htm'Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it.'
Clearly, you've never studied any history of the events. Try this one:That's an euphemism. "Leave" is not what you do at gun point resulting in you keeping a "strip" of your own land. That also didn't occur in 1948, that's when the biggest offending result came up.
A second Intifada (2000) from Palestinian forces, which ended in 2005, led to the Palestinian people's autonomous control of the West Bank and Gaza.
In 2005, Israel disengaged from the Gaza Strip, uprooting its settlements in the region.
The following year, Hamas won an election to control the Gaza Strip, kicking out representatives of the PLO. The armed takeover of Gaza by Hamas in 2007 prompted Israel to impose a blockade on Gaza.
Biden did give a speech where he did offer humanitarian aid to the Palestinians. A major mistake.Now Biden’s only stop is Tel Aviv, where AP reports he’s expected to push for allowing critical humanitarian aid into Gaza during meetings with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
It rejects peace or negotiation, it chooses war. So the Palestinian civilians voted for war. You reap what you sow.Here are the main points from the text:
In summary, the Hamas Covenant promotes the destruction of Israel through violent jihad and rejects compromise or negotiations with Israel. It is staunchly anti-Israel and contains anti-Semitic elements. The main goal is liberating Palestine from Israeli control.
- The Covenant of the Hamas is a manifesto issued in 1988 that outlines the goals of the Hamas movement, which is focused on destroying Israel through jihad (holy war).
- Hamas views all of Palestine as Islamic land that must be liberated from Israeli control. Liberating Palestine is seen as an individual duty for all Muslims.
- The Covenant calls for raising "the banner of jihad" against Israel and rejects any negotiated peace settlements with Israel.
- It contains anti-Semitic rhetoric, including calling for Muslims to fight and kill Jews and accusing Jews of scheming to take over the world.
- Hamas condemns the Egypt-Israel peace treaty and wants to bring Arab countries into the circle of struggle against Israel and Zionism.
- The text states that there can be no peace with Israel and that jihad is the only solution. Hamas sees itself as the vanguard in the fight against Israel and Zionism.
How do we know their election wasn't stolen? Some people believe the same thing happened last US presidential cycle.This is Claude 2's AI summary of the Hamas covenant found here: https://irp.fas.org/world/para/docs/880818a.htm
It gives great insight into their goals.
It rejects peace or negotiation, it chooses war. So the Palestinian civilians voted for war. You reap what you sow.
You cannot tell me that the Palestinian people who voted for this genocidal group are innocent, when they are voting for the murder of Jews. Do you not agree?
Maybe you think the recent polls are fake too, where it showed the majority of Palestinians support Hamas:
Poll finds dramatic rise in Palestinian support for Hamas
JERUSALEM (AP) — A new poll released Tuesday finds a dramatic surge in Palestinian support for Hamas following last month's Gaza war, with around three quarters viewing the Islamic militants as victors in a battle against Israel to defend Jerusalem and its holy sites.apnews.com
Or do you have any proof to support your hypothesis?
Part of the problem is that if you vote in certain people, it is hard to get rid of them again. Look at Putin, still in power 20 years later. Look at Iran, where the Supreme leader has been around for nearly 35 years. Or even China, where the leader has broken tradition and gone for a 3rd term. Funnily enough, they are all allies of one another.
The third paragraph first sentence of the polling link you posted.In most democracies, a minority of people will vote in their leaders. An example would be say 45% Republican and 42% Democrat. This is normal.
Regarding the 47%, it would be helpful if you provided a source.