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Dick7Access said:
Hey Brian,
What's your position on "Net Neutrality"?
I know wrong thread, but I was afraid you might miss this if I put it some where else
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Sorry but you have lost me, I must have missed something.

Brian
 
Net Neutrality is an American issue. Basically, Comcast and the other cable internet companies are pushing to be allowed to charge priority fees and to limit or expand bandwidth for various kinds of internet traffic as desired.

In practice, that has started with Comcast forcing Netflix to pay a whole lot of extra money or get all data streamed from Netflix to be clamped to the point that it kills their service. (Mind you, Comcast is already charging its customers for this bandwidth use already - the money from Netflix was just a multi-million dollar bonus.) Some other examples:
  • Let's say Comcast desides to launch its own search engine. Suddenly Google and Yahoo are "unavailable".
  • New! Comcast Mail! And suddenly emails set via other programs start taking a day to arrive.
  • Oh, you want to stream your event live? Sure thing, but you're limited to stop-action unless you pay Comcast $5,000,000 for regular priority or $25,000,000 for priority handling

Pretty much they could offer high-speed priority to anything they want and anyone who pays them, while crippling or even blocking internet services from anyone else.

It wouldn't be an issue if internet service was competitive (like it was with dial-up), but the vast majority of internet connections in the US are via cable. I don't know how cable is set up in the UK, but here the cable network is set up so that in any given area, only one cable company provides service. Basically, legal monopolies at the municipal level.
 
Brianwarnock said:
Sorry but you have lost me, I must have missed something.

Brian
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As frolthy has said it's an American issue, and I knew all of what he said about it, but I asked what your position was to, (1) see if you kept up with other American issues besides gun control, and (2) to see if you leaned right on any other issues. You see I like bantering with you because you don't get personal except in a jesting way. Also, I have an idea that almost everybody is liberal, or conservative in some area of their lives.
 
Brianwarnock said:
I know that you think the only place that matters and is allowed to be discussed is the USA but this is a global forum .

Brian
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You are partially right. I really don't care what laws they pass in any other country, but the people in those countries will have to fight their own battles no matter what side of the issue they are on. I have enough to do to fight for the American way of life here in the USA. You are right on when you say this is a global forum, but what I meant by this post was not that it was mis-placed but that I couldn't figure out what relevance it was to what was being discuss. It may of have had all the relevance in the world, but I couldn't see it. Still don't, but that's ok.
 
Dick you flatter me saying that I know about American gun control. I have argued mainly from a "what it should be" position but have learnt a lot about the complexity of your laws making due to the federal state of affairs, pun intended if you get my drift.
I research when necessary, ie always, get it wrong now and again and again, but as a colleague of mine once said
" why let facts get in the way of a good argument"

Brian
 
As far as your broadband issue is concerned I'm shocked, I thought America was the land of privatisation and competition, we have competition everywhere as far as I know.
I'm with virgin cable, but those not are with companies that use systems provided by the old British Telecom which is now privatised but there is legislation in place to prevent BT taking advantage of their historical monopoly.

Brian
 
As to my bullshit comment in post 2093 it was in response to nonsense from Connor in 2089, he has tried to wriggle out of it since, blaming me for not being a mind reader in fact.
I wouldn't worry about , which of course you aren't. :o

Brian
 
Brianwarnock said:
Not much point unless she is the owner of a legal weapon which you are teaching her to use.

Brian
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Yes, from my point of view it is the whole point. I want my government to get out of my bedroom, my kitchen, living room etc. Take their hands off my guns, my milkshakes and the list goes on and on. Now before I am cruelly attacked (just kidding), of course I believe in laws, but not just laws for the sake of making laws (republicans and Dems both guilty) but laws that will help a certain situation without unduly restricting the rights of the law abiding. A great example (IMHO) if all automobile in the USA were removed many lives would be saved. The advantage on having automobile to the law abiding, the economy, the American dream, the aged, the medical assistance, the, the, the, the, the, far outweigh the detriment of automobile (often by lawlessness but not always).

and please Brian keep digging. Iron sharpeneth iron;!!!
 
Nice switch there Dick, I meant no point in teaching her and you switch to your point in objecting to the legislation, neat I take my hat off to you.

Brian
 
Brianwarnock said:
As to my bullshit comment in post 2093 it was in response to nonsense from Connor in 2089, he has tried to wriggle out of it since, blaming me for not being a mind reader in fact.
I wouldn't worry about , which of course you aren't. :o

Brian
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Ok, now I get the relevance. That is why I also post a quote, so that I am not misunderstood. Which I am misunderstood anyways, but hey that is life.
One time I was the welder in the maintenance department of this factory. There was a tool maker there that was always snapping at me for something. I wanted to said to him "Do you want to work here" I was going to add and have this animosity towards me all the time. Tell me what I did wrong and I will make amends. Before I got the second part out he almost came at me physically, but certainly with the utmost verbal abuse. The next 7 years he never changed his opinion of me. That is why I never accuse anybody of anything in life and especially, and especially on a forum like this.

In fact just this morning in church I said to my sister, "Is that the only dress you have, and how come you didn't fix your hair this morning, and did you forget to take a shower again". She misunderstood me. She didn't realize how I was praising her. <G>;)
 
Frothingslosh said:
Net Neutrality is an American issue. Basically, Comcast and the other cable internet companies are pushing to be allowed to charge priority fees and to limit or expand bandwidth for various kinds of internet traffic as desired.

In practice, that has started with Comcast forcing Netflix to pay a whole lot of extra money or get all data streamed from Netflix to be clamped to the point that it kills their service. (Mind you, Comcast is already charging its customers for this bandwidth use already - the money from Netflix was just a multi-million dollar bonus.) Some other examples:
  • Let's say Comcast desides to launch its own search engine. Suddenly Google and Yahoo are "unavailable".
  • New! Comcast Mail! And suddenly emails set via other programs start taking a day to arrive.
  • Oh, you want to stream your event live? Sure thing, but you're limited to stop-action unless you pay Comcast $5,000,000 for regular priority or $25,000,000 for priority handling

Pretty much they could offer high-speed priority to anything they want and anyone who pays them, while crippling or even blocking internet services from anyone else.

It wouldn't be an issue if internet service was competitive (like it was with dial-up), but the vast majority of internet connections in the US are via cable. I don't know how cable is set up in the UK, but here the cable network is set up so that in any given area, only one cable company provides service. Basically, legal monopolies at the municipal level.
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Thanks Mr. Frothingslosh. I had heard about Net Neutrality but was not really sure what it was and have not had the time not the inclination to look it up. On some things if they do not affect me, I don't bother with them except with Governmental issues.
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Bladerunner said:
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Thanks Mr. Frothingslosh. I had heard about Net Neutrality but was not really sure what it was and have not had the time not the inclination to look it up. On some things if they do not affect me, I don't bother with them except with Governmental issues.
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That's the problem Blade, it will effect you and me because we both use the net. While I have mixed emotion, I know this the minute our government tries to run something they screw it up.
I haven't time right now to go thru all the detail, but I am forced to use dirty needles for my insulin because my government told me that if I put 20 years in the military they would take care of my medical.
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Dick7Access said:
Does that mean you will come to the Chinese Buffet with me?:)
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Just back from my Sunday dinner with my daughter, she does a mean honey roast ham, mind you I do the hard part .. I supply the wine so that I and her hubby can get mellow.

Anyway Dick if I was still travelling I would love to go to Florida and have a Chinese buffet with you, perhaps Blade could join us and I could put you both right re gun control. :D

Have a good day

Brian
 
Brianwarnock said:
Just back from my Sunday dinner with my daughter, she does a mean honey roast ham, mind you I do the hard part .. I supply the wine so that I and her hubby can get mellow.

Anyway Dick if I was still travelling I would love to go to Florida and have a Chinese buffet with you, perhaps Blade could join us and I could put you both right re gun control. :D

Have a good day

Brian
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Am about 14-15 hours away from Orlando. How much further Dick is I don't know. However, I would not rule it out, anything is possible,.
 
Bladerunner said:
Am about 14-15 hours away from Orlando. How much further Dick is I don't know. However, I would not rule it out, anything is possible,.
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I am around 50 miles north of Orlando, and 20 degrees warmer than Chattanooga. (500 mi. south) My mission board is in Dayton, TN. I get up there once in a while. Do you live anywhere near there?
 
Bladerunner said:
around 8-90 miles, it is up about 20 miles from Soddy Daisy.
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What a small world. Here is the boards complete address:
16500 N star circle
Sale Creek, TN

Next time I am up that way I will PM you. Do you know if TN has reciprocal CWP with FL.
 
dan-cat said:
Brian calling bullshit is the funniest thing that's happened on these boards for a while :D
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I agree, I have just chosen to as MarkK would say : "Don't feed them"

His Narcissistic opinion is something that could be done without but, hey ho changing him would probably be like drawing blood from a boulder. So I guess Ignoring him would be the best course of action.

Funniest thing is, He accused me of not reading older posts, but still hasn't noticed that I posted "that I did mean including accidents " before he posted that I didn't! Add hypocrite to the list please!
 
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