Gun laws do they work

[Libre]

And you want to know why I want to keep my gun???????????

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/05/3...bbery-100-year-old-veteran/?intcmp=latestnews

I get it Dick! You keep your gun so you could just shoot those pesky herons that crap on the mail trucks, instead of cutting back the tree branches - right?
(Or, did you mean you keep it so you would be able to shoot the conservation agents coming to serve you with a warrant?)

 

[Dick7Access]

I get it Dick! You keep your gun so you could just shoot those pesky herons that crap on the mail trucks, instead of cutting back the tree branches - right?
(Or, did you mean you keep it so you would be able to shoot the conservation agents coming to serve you with a warrant?)

Decisions, decisions, your making my life difficult. I only have so many bullets.

 

[Bladerunner]

I love the fact that Americans can happily balance carrying killing weapons and bravely profess to kill anyone trespassing on their property with being a Christian, going to church and following the word of god (only when it suits of course).

Do you leave your guns in the vestibule when worshipping? (Worshipping God that is, not guns)

It's just one big hypocritical joke to most everyone outside the picket fence of the USA.

Col

Then why do you call upon us when you need something. Rem, It was us gun totting, religious nuts that help keep you from speaking German just about now. No we have not changed and will not change any time in the near future.
Get over it!

 

[Brianwarnock]

Then why do you call upon us when you need something. Rem, It was us gun totting, religious nuts that help keep you from speaking German just about now. No we have not changed and will not change any time in the near future.
Get over it!

This is always good for a laugh, I wonder if the yanks believe it or are just saying it, it's a bit like them believing that a makeshift militia won their war of independence.

Brian

 

[Dick7Access]

This is always good for a laugh, I wonder if the yanks believe it or are just saying it, it's a bit like them believing that a makeshift militia won their war of independence.

Brian

Do you believe UK would have won without US help?

 

[ColinEssex]

Then why do you call upon us when you need something. Rem, It was us gun totting, religious nuts that help keep you from speaking German just about now. No we have not changed and will not change any time in the near future.
Get over it!

Nice typical American arrogant comment, thanks for the laugh. This comment has been made dozens of times on these forums over the last 10 or 12 years.

Is there any evidence that the British would be forced to speak German? The poles never did after invasion, neither did the French.

Anyway, if you read and understand my post - I know it's difficult as English is not your first language, but I was saying how can being a Christian, or pseudo Christian sit comfortably with gun carrying and wanting to kill someone who treads on your lawn.

Oh and the reason so many yanks were killed on d day was because of a tactical balls up on one of the beaches when all the Sherman tanks sunk because of faulty floatations devices not tested on water with waves. But the British saved the day by building a long pontoon for you.

Col

 

[Brianwarnock]

The point is that you, the yanks, speak as though you willingly rode to our rescue whereas the truth is that you only entered the war after Pearl Harbor , and Germany declared war on you. What would have happened if those events had not is open to speculation, maybe we would be speaking Russian, maybe you would also be speaking German, their, and our , technology was far in advance of yours regarding jet and rocket propulsion , remember that it was a German that won the space race for you after the all American naval programme failed.

Brian

 

[Brianwarnock]

Col is correct, how do you square your alleged readiness to kill with your Christian beliefs?

Brian

 

[Dick7Access]

Anyway, if you read and understand my post - I know it's difficult as English is not your first language, but I was saying how can being a Christian, or pseudo Christian sit comfortably with gun carrying and wanting to kill someone who treads on your lawn.
Col

To even attempting to answering that question, we would have to define what a Christian is. Do you think we would ever come to consensus on this forum?

 

[Bladerunner]

Nice typical American arrogant comment, thanks for the laugh. This comment has been made dozens of times on these forums over the last 10 or 12 years.

Is there any evidence that the British would be forced to speak German? The poles never did after invasion, neither did the French.

Anyway, if you read and understand my post - I know it's difficult as English is not your first language, but I was saying how can being a Christian, or pseudo Christian sit comfortably with gun carrying and wanting to kill someone who treads on your lawn.

Oh and the reason so many yanks were killed on d day was because of a tactical balls up on one of the beaches when all the Sherman tanks sunk because of faulty floatations devices not tested on water with waves. But the British saved the day by building a long pontoon for you.

Col

I believe it was called the Allied forces that hit those beaches on D-Day. Approx. 8500 soldiers lost their lives, about 2500 Brits, 1500 Canadians and the rest US. There were many problems on all sides that I am sure contributed to the fatalities. I did not say we saved the day by doing it all but without those extra soldiers and equipment supplied by the US. throughout the war, where would you be.It is not arrogance but facts. You like to laugh off those 183,588 soldiers that gave their lives so you might have Freedom which now you throw away like it was nothing for what, the so-called civilized world. That my friend is arrogance and it seems the British have plenty of it as well.

Before I go, one other question ask by Brian in another post:

This is always good for a laugh, I wonder if the yanks believe it or are just saying it, it's a bit like them believing that a makeshift militia won their war of independence.

Brian

I believe yes, it was a makeshift militia. Yes, the French in the end did help us with the sea-born problems your country presented but buddy, on the ground we put a 'wooping' on your behinds. From the northern most states all the way down to King Moutains Battle in South Carolina we took enough battles to convince your generals and king to leave our country alone. You do know that sometimes you can grab something and then find out you can not let go of it.

As of yesterday, D-Day -70 years we honored those who fought and those who fell. During 1939 to 1945, the world lost some 60-80 million people because of one mans lust for power.

 

[Bladerunner]

I love the fact that Americans can happily balance carrying killing weapons and bravely profess to kill anyone trespassing on their property with being a Christian, going to church and following the word of god (only when it suits of course).

Do you leave your guns in the vestibule when worshipping? (Worshipping God that is, not guns)

It's just one big hypocritical joke to most everyone outside the picket fence of the USA.

Col

First what do you know about the "Word of God" yours an Atheist or at the very least a Agnostic. What do you know about Worshipping the Lord our God. Again Atheist worship nothing but nature and themselves.

Second,

It's just one big hypocritical joke to most everyone outside the picket fence of the USA.

One does not throw rocks when they live in a glass house.

 

[Bladerunner]

Col is correct, how do you square your alleged readiness to kill with your Christian beliefs?

Brian

Who said anything about killing? you neutralize the problem. There is no readiness to Kill! However, it that is what it takes to protect my family, then so be it. My Christian beliefs will stand up to that anytime.

You hope it never happens and chances are it never will. My family back to my parental grandfather has only had about 4 robberies and no shootings, killings, rapes, etc. But the atmosphere of today, the liberals teaching kids they don't need to work, there is a possibility depending upon where you live of course, that a member of your family will be mugged, stabbed, shot , rapped or killed in your lifetime.

 

[Bladerunner]

The point is that you, the yanks, speak as though you willingly rode to our rescue whereas the truth is that you only entered the war after Pearl Harbor , and Germany declared war on you. What would have happened if those events had not is open to speculation, maybe we would be speaking Russian, maybe you would also be speaking German, their, and our , technology was far in advance of yours regarding jet and rocket propulsion , remember that it was a German that won the space race for you after the all American naval programme failed.

Brian

The world would be a much different place than it is now. Am not sure about what your are referring to when you say the Naval program failed. Atlantic or Pacific.

p.s. you blokes over there had better watch your backs because Russia is on the move and the liberal socialist atmosphere over here states side is about the same as it was in 1939 to 1944.

 

[ColinEssex]

You like to laugh off those 183,588 soldiers that gave their lives so you might have Freedom . . .

Blade, I just love your ability to misinterpret what I said, it is an American failing to read what you want and not what is actually being said. What is your first language? Maybe I should try that to help you, I'm always happy to help the colonials.

I was laughing at you, not the masses of lives given, I am not that callous despite allegedly being a trog or whatever it is people call me. Many of my relatives faught in the war including my father, uncles and my grandfather in ww1.

Oh, also, you know nothing about my religious dalliances in my past, so don't speculate like Larson loved to do.

Col

 

[Dick7Access]

Blade, I just love your ability to misinterpret what I said, it is an American failing to read what you want and not what is actually being said. What is your first language? Maybe I should try that to help you, I'm always happy to help the colonials.

I was laughing at you, not the masses of lives given, I am not that callous despite allegedly being a trog or whatever it is people call me. Many of my relatives faught in the war including my father, uncles and my grandfather in ww1.

Oh, also, you know nothing about my religious dalliances in my past, so don't speculate like Larson loved to do.

Col

I know this about your religion Cole. No matter what he has done, as long as you hold a grudge about your brother-in-law, it will hurt you more than it does him.

 

[AnthonyGerrard]

I believe it was called the Allied forces that hit those beaches on D-Day. Approx. 8500 soldiers lost their lives, about 2500 Brits, 1500 Canadians and the rest US. There were many problems on all sides that I am sure contributed to the fatalities. I did not say we saved the day by doing it all but without those extra soldiers and equipment supplied by the US. throughout the war, where would you be.It is not arrogance but facts. You like to laugh off those 183,588 soldiers that gave their lives so you might have Freedom which now you throw away like it was nothing for what, the so-called civilized world. That my friend is arrogance and it seems the British have plenty of it as well.

Before I go, one other question ask by Brian in another post:


I believe yes, it was a makeshift militia. Yes, the French in the end did help us with the sea-born problems your country presented but buddy, on the ground we put a 'wooping' on your behinds. From the northern most states all the way down to King Moutains Battle in South Carolina we took enough battles to convince your generals and king to leave our country alone. You do know that sometimes you can grab something and then find out you can not let go of it.

As of yesterday, D-Day -70 years we honored those who fought and those who fell. During 1939 to 1945, the world lost some 60-80 million people because of one mans lust for power.

I think you have your facts wrong? You mean casualties?

http://www.ddaymuseum.co.uk/d-day/d-day-and-the-battle-of-normandy-your-questions-answered

 

[Bladerunner]

I think you have your facts wrong? You mean casualties?

http://www.ddaymuseum.co.uk/d-day/d-day-and-the-battle-of-normandy-your-questions-answered

It is my understanding that the military uses casualties to encompass all soldiers that were wounded and killed. Operation Overlord resulted in about 29,000 killed. All reports that I can see (a variety of reports types) give the actual allied soldiers killed from 8-10 thousand at the beach heads.

Here is one http://www.army.mil/d-day/ Here is another: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/d-day-americans-died-day-iraq-war-article-1.1090824

 

[AnthonyGerrard]

It is my understanding that the military uses casualties to encompass all soldiers that were wounded and killed. Operation Overlord resulted in about 29,000 killed. All reports that I can see (a variety of reports types) give the actual allied soldiers killed from 8-10 thousand at the beach heads.

Here is one http://www.army.mil/d-day/ Here is another: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/d-day-americans-died-day-iraq-war-article-1.1090824

I think you are misreading a lot then - your own first link gives circa 9000 casualties, not deaths for DDay.

 

[ColinEssex]

I know this about your religion Cole. No matter what he has done, as long as you hold a grudge about your brother-in-law, it will hurt you more than it does him.

You know nothing, you are on the wrong track. That grudge is nothing to do with it, that is just a family grudge I've held for a few years.

I'm referring to the Christian churches I belonged to back in the 1960's and the goings on of so called Christians. I even went to London to see billy graham.

Col

 

[Brianwarnock]

Before I go, one other question ask by Brian in another post:


I believe yes, it was a makeshift militia. Yes, the French in the end did help us with the sea-born problems your country presented but buddy, on the ground we put a 'wooping' on your behinds. From the northern most states all the way down to King Moutains Battle in South Carolina we took enough battles to convince your generals and king to leave our country alone. You do know that sometimes you can grab something and then find out you can not let go of it.

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Only just noticed this on the end of another post, should let it go really but hate to leave people in ignorance. There are many places to read the truth but try this one for size.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Yorktown

I read a similar honest account on a large brass plaque in the gardens of a plantation somewhere near Chesapeake Bay

Brian