Shootings in US schools

[jsanders]

Just let me know if everyone is in and when we start.

Now would be nice.

 

[KalelGmoon]

how about we just let our kids be kidnapped, stabbed repeatedly, and set on fire, while still alive, to die in a puddle of mud. Yeah I know that was in Scotland, but things like this happen all over the world, not just the United States

 

[Rich]

how about we just let our kids be kidnapped, stabbed repeatedly, and set on fire, while still alive, to die in a puddle of mud. Yeah I know that was in Scotland, but things like this happen all over the world, not just the United States

Depends on the frequency though doesn't and at least one tries to protect one's loved ones, here

 

[Mike375]

Depends on the frequency though doesn't and at least one tries to protect one's loved ones, here


Dear Rich

Even Australia's nutty people from "gun control" have conceded that different countries can't really be compared.

You should compare deaths/injury in places like New York and Chicago to other places in America where gun ownership is virtually compulsory.

Just recently our Dept of Criminolgy has released its report on our gun laws which were introduced in 1996. The report has completely blown the gun control groups out of the water.

Mike

 

[Rich]

Dear Rich

Even Australia's nutty people from "gun control" have conceded that different countries can't really be compared.

You should compare deaths/injury in places like New York and Chicago to other places in America where gun ownership is virtually compulsory.

Just recently our Dept of Criminolgy has released its report on our gun laws which were introduced in 1996. The report has completely blown the gun control groups out of the water.

Mike

Last I heard New York and Chicago were the gun crime capitals of the world, are you saying it gets worse?

 

[nikkypickles]

I'm in

I'm all for ignoring non-productive posts from anyone.

I started this afternoon.

I've been on a sabbatical from these forums for a while, and I come back and get a headache on the first day!

Unfortunately, I'm just as guilty - I should know better than to even open the posts I know are going to be flamable

 

[Mike375]

New York has the tight gun laws in America

Been that way since about 1968.

You may not be aware of this but gun ownership is very high in a lot of European countries. However, gun ownership in Europe is a lot more of an up market activity than is the case in America or Australia.

When there is a shooting in Australia or a knifing etc you will invariably hear on the radio something like......he is of Middle Easter appearance or he is of Asian appearance. In addition such people are virtually always from very low socio economic groups and the unemployment rate can be 25% to 30%

Of course one of the reasons that gun laws made no differenc in Australia was because the gun laws had no impact of the offenders and potentual offenders, that is, the Arabs and Asians. A joke in 1996 was....where is the only place in Sydney that is an Arab/Asian free zone...answer....a gun hand in line.

Mike

 

[Rich]

New York has the tight gun laws in America

Been that way since about 1968.

Mike

It's being challenged by the pro gun lobby and is innefective since the gun fraternity just pop over to the next state and pick one up.
Oh and you're making racist remarks again

 

[Mike375]

What was racist?

I am not the person who makes the announcement in the radio news.

A you saying that police should not describe the person as Middle East or Asian appearance. If so, then that should also mean if the suspect is very short or extremely tall then that should not be mentioned. Can they be indentified as male or female?

Are you saying that we should pretend that the Arab/Asian suburbs have an unemployment rate like the national avererage of about 5%?

 

[MrsGorilla]

Unfortunately, I'm just as guilty - I should know better than to even open the posts I know are going to be flamable

I know, but it's hard to find any that aren't.

 

[Rich]

I know, but it's hard to find any that aren't.

Here's one
http://www.access-programmers.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=117526
there are about 90,000 more

 

[MrsGorilla]

Here's one
http://www.access-programmers.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=117526
there are about 90,000 more

Thanks for the tip.

 

[dan-cat]

I'm all for ignoring non-productive posts from anyone.

I've got a better idea...let's return fire with some comedy...

"I fart in your general direction!"

 

[Adeptus]

When there is a shooting in Australia or a knifing etc you will invariably hear on the radio something like......he is of Middle Easter appearance or he is of Asian appearance.

Not all the time. Often its "...member of <name> motorcycle gang" or "...suspected to be gang related"
And what about the spate of underworld killings in Melbourne a while back?
They were all white on both sides of the gun, from memory.

And the rampage that prompted the gun law reforms, was a white guy too.
Had mental problems, schizophrenia or something?

 

[Mike375]

But if.....suspected to be gang related...then how often is that Arab and especially in Sydney?

But whether it is Arab/Asian or "white man" I would bet that 99% will come from people in lower socio economic groups.

Mike

 

[Mike375]

Missed this one

And the rampage that prompted the gun law reforms, was a white guy too.
Had mental problems, schizophrenia or something?

He fits lower socio economic group.

Actually, the two biggest massacres after Port Arthur were the fellow that set fire to the night club and the other was the bloke who had the domestic with his wife (Alice Springs??) so went outside and then drove his semi trailer right through the motel and killed 13. Pity for all the others that he did not have a gun and just killed himself and missus.

Mike

 

[jsanders]

Missed this one

And the rampage that prompted the gun law reforms, was a white guy too.
Had mental problems, schizophrenia or something?

He fits lower socio economic group.

Actually, the two biggest massacres after Port Arthur were the fellow that set fire to the night club and the other was the bloke who had the domestic with his wife (Alice Springs??) so went outside and then drove his semi trailer right through the motel and killed 13. Pity for all the others that he did not have a gun and just killed himself and missus.

Mike

Garth Brooks made a song about that.

 

[Adeptus]

I would bet that 99% will come from people in lower socio economic groups.

well yeah... that's where most of the violent crimes come from.
Higher socioeconomic groups tend to just steal, embezzle, and defraud
(or murder in more... imaginative... ways)

 

[FoFa]

Yes let's all dance around the maypole and sing the praises of the US and how great they are and how we should all be forever grateful to them and not give a toss when yet another one of their children is gunned down by an idiot with a gun simply because it's written on some old scrap of paper that they can

See Rich, this could be stated in a not so controversial method, more along the lines of:
Well everyone may not agree with the USA's position on this. It does seem there is a problem with your school killings, and you don't seem to have any resolution.

So you are trying to be controversial, not generate good conversation. And you keep throwing that "old scrap of paper" up even thou it has no real meaning in your context.

 

[jsanders]

See Rich, this could be stated in a not so controversial method, more along the lines of:
Well everyone may not agree with the USA's position on this. It does seem there is a problem with your school killings, and you don't seem to have any resolution.

So you are trying to be controversial, not generate good conversation. And you keep throwing that "old scrap of paper" up even thou it has no real meaning in your context.

Dang FOFA you are the official spokesman of the day.