Shootings in US schools

[dan-cat]

You know you remind me of that kid in class who's only ever going to get d's and f's and therefore decides to disrupt the whole class instead of paying attention and listening.

You remind me of a teacher I once had. He gave me a 'B' for one assignment in English with the remark: "What happened to you, tripped and smacked your head or something?"

 

[Rich]

No, you're confusing the issue here with the idea that if you tie a yellow ribbon round a tree in America, then its a sort of communal welcome without the bother of actually speaking to the arriving person - thus you can continue to watch TV and eat burgers without interruption of welcoming someone you probobly hate anyway.

Col

Don't they hang up a banner with "mission accomplished" at the same time

 

[dan-cat]

The problems in NI revolve around religion, always have and probably will for as long as people follow that "good book"

And now on top of that you have more British citizens killing other British citizens for a different religion. I have to tell you, [and this isn't meant as a pointscore], from an outsiders perspective, it doesn't look very unified at all.

 

[Brianwarnock]

The problems in NI revolve around religion, always have and probably will for as long as people follow that "good book"

That's simply because the Irish were Catholics when the Protestant King Henry VIII declared himself king of ireland in 1524, all of the Irish problems stem from this, the protestant Irish, including my forefathers settled on Irish land either from England, or in my people case Scotland, thus it is arguable that the religious element merely mirrors the nationality or ethnicity. It should be remembered that one man's terrorist is anothers freedom fighter, not that I would condone many if any of the IRA actions and would certainly condemn the hypocritical American supporters of the IRA.

Brian

 

[dan-cat]

No, you're confusing the issue here with the idea that if you tie a yellow ribbon round a tree in America, then its a sort of communal welcome without the bother of actually speaking to the arriving person - thus you can continue to watch TV and eat burgers without interruption of welcoming someone you probobly hate anyway.

Talk about souring a perfectly good joke

 

[dan-cat]

and would certainly condemn the hypocritical American supporters of the IRA.

Brian

I have to say there isn't much defence against this comment.

 

[ColinEssex]

Talk about souring a perfectly good joke

I merely explained the American weird yellow ribbon tradition. Whats your problem

It couldn't be a jacket (of any colour) - it would have to be a large jacket to go round a tree.

Anyway, why would a jacket sting?

Col

 

[ColinEssex]

I have to tell you, [and this isn't meant as a pointscore], from an outsiders perspective, it doesn't look very unified at all.

you should know, you have enough wierd factions in the USA.

Col

 

[Rich]

That's simply because the Irish were Catholics when the Protestant King Henry VIII declared himself king of ireland in 1524, all of the Irish problems stem from this, the protestant Irish, including my forefathers settled on Irish land either from England, or in my people case Scotland, thus it is arguable that the religious element merely mirrors the nationality or ethnicity. It should be remembered that one man's terrorist is anothers freedom fighter, not that I would condone many if any of the IRA actions and would certainly condemn the hypocritical American supporters of the IRA.

Brian

But weren't the problems further exacerbated by Spanish catholics during Lizzy's reign?

 

[Brianwarnock]

But weren't the problems further exacerbated by Spanish catholics during Lizzy's reign?

It is true that the thought that the Spanish might seek help and bases in Ireland caused both Tudor queens to expedite the English take over of Ireland.
The Scots were already there in the North and the English took their enclave from them.

Brian

 

[dan-cat]

you should know, you have enough wierd factions in the USA.

Col

I have to admit that I don't. I'm left totally confused that people born and bred in the United Kingdom are thinking that they hate the country they live in to such an extent that they would kill their fellow citizens.

EDIT: Is this a unique scenario? Has it ever happened before. I can't think of where it has.

 

[Rich]

It is true that the thought that the Spanish might seek help and bases in Ireland caused both Tudor queens to expedite the English take over of Ireland.
The Scots were already there in the North and the English took their enclave from them.

Brian

The Scots then presumably returned to Glasgow

 

[dan-cat]

The Scots then presumably returned to Glasgow

I wonder if they whined about it?

 

[Rich]

I have to admit that I don't. I'm left totally confused that people born and bred in the United Kingdom are thinking that they hate the country they live in to such an extent that they would kill their fellow citizens.
.

I've already told you, Religion

EDIT: Is this a unique scenario? Has it ever happened before. I can't think of where it has

Well Spain for starters, don't you guys ever get international news?

 

[ColinEssex]

I have to admit that I don't. I'm left totally confused that people born and bred in the United Kingdom are thinking that they hate the country they live in to such an extent that they would kill their fellow citizens.

Danielle - what part of Brians answer did you not understand?

Its the usual war recipe, religion and territory, just like Israel and Palestine. The USA supplied arms to the Irish just as its supplying arms to the Israelies and supplied arms to the Taliban.

(you did know you are fighting a war in Afghanistan?)

Col

 

[Rich]

I wonder if they whined about it?

Depends on which football ground they're at

 

[ColinEssex]

Well Spain for starters, don't you guys ever get international news?

That refers to news beyond the US borders so is of no interest to Americans

Col

 

[dan-cat]

Well Spain for starters, don't you guys ever get international news?

No you misunderstand me. The ETA fights for Basque territory to be seperated from Spain. There is history of ethnicity, religion etc behind this. Just like in Ireland.

But look at the UK and there is NO such history in muslim context. Where are the claims that parts of the UK should be freed and returned back to muslim control? There are none. Don't you see the difference?

 

[Rich]

Don't you see the difference?

Nope, none whatsover, again, it all revolves around religion and brainwashing

 

[dan-cat]

I'd like to make a polite request.

The questions I'm asking are genuine. So could you hold fire on the allusions to American ignorance? Thanks