The Department of Positive Out of Body Possibilities

[ColinEssex]

No!

As far as I am aware of, nobody on either side of my parents family tree, has had any psychiatric, psychological, or mental disorder.

So you're the first then.

Col

 

[BarryMK]

Been on the funny fags again Barry? That can give you an out-of-body experience.

Col

Who? Me?

It will be at exactly 3:15:27 am on February 15th 2086

Brian

And we'll all be there to see it

 

[Atomic Shrimp]

No!

As far as I am aware of, nobody on either side of my parents family tree, has had any psychiatric, psychological, or mental disorder.

Thanks. Next question: Is English your first language?

 

[Atomic Shrimp]

I believe, if any person, don't get my concept yet, they lack in imagination, and that is not there fault.

If a small number of people didn't understand you - and those people had general difficulties in understanding other things and other people, you would be right.

If everybody doesn't understand you, and all those people mostly manage to understand each other and understand other things tolerably well, then the problem lies squarely with you and/or the thing you're trying to explain.

I think it starts to look as though you're being deliberately obscure, for some reason.

 

[DevastatioN]

Thanks for answering my thoughts and questions in depth. Those last long posts actually made more sense to me than anything previous.

So you wish to use the braingate device to measure things, because as an "afterlife orb" you cannot hear, speak, communicate etc. Only see. So for you, your trying to use a device that can detect and allow communication to any afterlife orb, whereas currently there is no possible way for communication.

I am still not 100% sure on what you believe you can hook the BrainGate up to however, you wish to keep it attached to the dead body, but what about these orbs that have been around for a long time, or after the body decomposes etc.

Another thought, there are apparently many cases where spirits etc. have had contact with humans, in which they could speak and hear. Is there a different between your orb example, and these examples? Why in your case you could not hear and talk, but others could?

Please let me know if I'm on the right track of your thinking.

 

[Tim Brewer]

Thanks for answering my thoughts and questions in depth. Those last long posts actually made more sense to me than anything previous.

So you wish to use the Brain Gate device to measure things, because as an "afterlife orb" you cannot hear, speak, communicate etc. Only see. So for you, your trying to use a device that can detect and allow communication to any afterlife orb, whereas currently there is no possible way for communication.

I am still not 100% sure on what you believe you can hook the Brain Gate up to however, you wish to keep it attached to the dead body, but what about these orbs that have been around for a long time, or after the body decomposes etc.

Another thought, there are apparently many cases where spirits etc. have had contact with humans, in which they could speak and hear. Is there a different between your orb example, and these examples? Why in your case you could not hear and talk, but others could?

Please let me know if I'm on the right track of your thinking.

You are getting better, but no dead bodies.

Imagine for a moment, that this image above, is our outer Brain Gate sensor, and the balls below it. Is our floating, trained afterlife, Brain Gate patients orbs.

Angeling there self down, from the top of the sensor, so a couple of them, can play on the monitor, as the other orbs watch!

 

[BarryMK]

Crystal clear - now it all makes sense! Nurse! Nurse!

 

[DevastatioN]

OK, you want to have a BrainGate left open for the orbs to use.

This does come back to what someone earlier said, that's not really what the BrainGate does, it won't be able to detect an orb because it detects neurons, this orbs wouldn't have neurons that exist in our plane, or dimension.

However you can prolly adapt multiple machines to see what you can pickup. In essense he's trying to use a device that can detect the afterlife, and allow them an easy way to communicate. A device that can pickup possible afterlife wavelengths and signals.

It's really not that crazy if you think about it in that regard. I just don't think the BrainGate is the device that will do it, but maybe something similar derived from it.

Tim: Care to respond to my point about some orbs being able to hear/talk etc. Also, is there any consistency in all these OBE about the hearing and talking? Does everyone experience the exact same OBE senses?

 

[Atomic Shrimp]

Is there any evidence that these orbs actually exist, outside of:

--Photographs, where the huge majority of them are explainable as lens flare, dirt on the lens, airborne motes, etc.

--Sensationalist TV programmes about orbs, of dubious scientific rigour

??

 

[Rich]

Crystal clear - now it all makes sense! Nurse! Nurse!

I'm getting negative waves from you down here barry, your aura's obviously strong

 

[JANR]

I'm getting negative waves from you down here barry

JR

 

[Rich]

It's Friday, you'd expect most of us to be full of "spirit"

I would have been tonight if I hadn't been asked to baby sit
I dread that word Dad?

 

[Rich]

JR

 

[pono1]

 

[Tim Brewer]

OK, you want to have a BrainGate left open for the orbs to use.

This does come back to what someone earlier said, that's not really what the BrainGate does, it won't be able to detect an orb because it detects neurons, this orbs wouldn't have neurons that exist in our plane, or dimension.

However you can prolly adapt multiple machines to see what you can pickup. In essense he's trying to use a device that can detect the afterlife, and allow them an easy way to communicate. A device that can pickup possible afterlife wavelengths and signals.

It's really not that crazy if you think about it in that regard. I just don't think the BrainGate is the device that will do it, but maybe something similar derived from it.

Tim: Care to respond to my point about some orbs being able to hear/talk etc. Also, is there any consistency in all these OBE about the hearing and talking? Does everyone experience the exact same OBE senses?

"It's really not that crazy if you think about it in that regard."

Priceless!

I will be back!

 

[Tim Brewer]

Drugs?

Good question Rich, and I am sorry, that I waited so long to answer your question.

No, this topic is not about drugs, but communicating with potential out of body afterlife people. In a way, that can be measured, and then placed on the Internet.

Don't take my word for it. Here, is what DevastatioN had to say.

"It's really not that crazy if you think about it in that regard."
DevastatioN

When times permits, I will explain my view, on other machines, and what other people are doing in this field of science.

One of my Murphy Laws:

"If one can get it, then everybody can get it."

I know this celebration, is after the fact of DevastatioN posting, but I do believe, we need to take this time, and celebrate, this small victory, for this topic, this concept, this idea, and this theory!

Sure we can talk about modifications to it, and I still do have more, on explaining it, but we do have a break through, and it should be noticed.

I also picked the first reply to this topic, for this celebration!

Here is an image of fireworks, for this date in time!

Maybe next year, we will have the real deal, with an image cake, or something.

Maybe we can go on Larry King show, or something. I wonder if he would be interested in something like this?

Maybe Rich, DevastatioN, and I, can do that some time!

What do you think?

If you get a chance, check out the images on my profile!

I will be back!

P.S. DevastatioN, I noticed that you like to play chess. Maybe we can do that some time, if you would like.

I would also like to thank you for taking the time, to understand my topic better.

I will be back, but I just wanted to tell you that!

 

[Tim Brewer]

Thomas A. Edison, one of the worlds greatest inventors, believed it was possible to communicate with the dead.

He would not build anything, if he did not feel he could sell it. I have figured out a way, how we can do it for free!

Some feel that other machines, might be better for my experiment, and I don't question that, just as long as we are in an agreement, that it can be done.

If you can imagine, an afterlife, as one of those orbs, you see moving around, in one of those ghost video, then we can take it one example further, and think of orbs, as light bulbs. By using that example, it ties right back into Edison idea.

I know this idea concept, is way out in field of dreams right field for you, but if you examine all the evidence.

It makes sense to try the free experiment.

What came first, the orb, the light bulb, or the frogs?

The light bulb represents the orb, and the orb goes all the way back to the Bible. It also represents my experience with a near death experience.

The electrical socket, represents the outer sensor we will use, for my free experiment.

What about the frogs?

Good question, I'm glad you asked.

I believe, that is one of the steps, in our evolution, from a fish to a human.

Well, I better go jump in the bed.

Reb-it!, Reb-it!

 

[Atomic Shrimp]

Tim, you seem to be operating under the assumption that nobody has tried to detect disembodied persons by electronic means ever before. Thing is, lots of people have tried, in lots of different ways - and they fall into two categories:

-People trying to do it in earnest, and failing

-People claiming to have succeeded, but fraudulently.

 

[GPGeorge]

Tim, Bubba.

Stop by and say "hello" the next time you are out of body and want to chat.

I'm usually home in the evenings. Don't bother to knock; just come on in.

 

[DevastatioN]

Haha, me and Tim are not the same person, I am actually a Database Developer and do help out people around here (and get advice from the even bigger guru's of course).

I came across this thread because I find the topic interesting, and yes I do believe in paranormal activity and ghosts/spirits. But it's all based on one's personal experiences, everyone is a skeptic until they can witness something themselves.

I don't think his idea is off the wall, because I've really tried my best to understand where he's coming from, and what he's trying to do. Behind all that jabbered English happens to be a logical idea. I don't agree that the technology he's working with will accomplish what he wants to, but I believe what he's trying to do is a direction I think many scientists will take.

It basically comes down to "I think spirits exist.... how can I prove it? I have to detect it... How can I detect it? Brainstorm ideas *here*"

He has presented us with one of these "ideas", his idealogies disagree with mine, and probably many others... but on a subject like this there really is no right or wrong, only ideas and brainstorming. I don't agree with the harsh skeptic mentality of "Spirits can't exist because I can't see them, because you believe they exist therefore you must be a lunatic insane person."

Now, I'm not defending his methods or his ideas, but I'm saying he's not 100% out to lunch as he may seem, he just can't put it into English enough.