Trump Administration Predictions

[Thales750]

You still don't get it, the left turned Musk and Trump into your worse nightmare. They let the genie out of the bottle.

They're not my worst nightmare. I don't have fear, what is coming is coming. You really can't get it, that I'm not on the left.

 

[Thales750]

The left did that, wakeup.

The left loved him years ago because he pretended to care about the environment. The right deified him in the lead up to purchasing Twitter. That's when you all added him to the worshipable demigods.

I liked him back when he was first building building Space X long before he was popular.

"Wake up", that's a good one.

 

[AccessBlaster]

Here's an easy riddle: What does Trump, Elon, and Rogan all have in common? They are all disillusioned democrats. Sadly many of us didn't leave the Democrat party, the Democrat party left us.

 

[Thales750]

You still don't get it, the left turned Musk and Trump into your worse nightmare. They let the genie out of the bottle.

The Genie out of the bottle? 25% of our economy (GPD) is based on government spending. The night mare will happen when all these capitalist overlords cut of the middle class money flow.

Look at what happened during the Great Depression. Do you even know why we had a great depression in 1929 and not in 2008?

You still haven't answered what predictions of mine failed to fruition.

 

[Thales750]

Here's an easy riddle: What does Trump, Elon, and Rogan all have in common? They are all disillusioned democrats. Sadly many of us didn't leave the Democrat party, the Democrat party left us.

I agree the Democrats are totally screwed up. Their messaging exist to push people to the right, so Koch and company can get the rest of their (everyday people) money.

 

[AccessBlaster]

agree the Democrats are totally screwed up.

Ya think?
Maybe you could learn something like dialing back the Hitler foolishness. You are part of the messaging.

Their messaging exist to push people to the right,

Their messaging sucks, but I doubt it's intentional. They are their own worst enemys, and Trump has tapped into the chaos.

 

[Pat Hartman]

The Genie out of the bottle? 25% of our economy (GPD) is based on government spending. The night mare will happen when all these capitalist overlords cut of the middle class money flow.

And at least 40% (maybe even more) of that is total waste. Civil servants are overpaid and under work - when they even show up - so its a double whammy regarding salaries and then we get to the overly generous health benefits and the stupidly generous retirement benefits and that's before we get to the bridges to nowhere and investigating the sex lives of various animals and insects and the bad loans to insolvent companies who will never repay them and the idiotic overpayment for almost everything the military buys due to stupid, stupid, stupid, downright idiotic procurement processes.

That excess 40% could come back to the people as lower taxes and people will spend their extra money and the economy gets better, not worse. The government MAKES NOTHING. It has certain jobs to do but everything else is just a waste of taxpayer money. Who ever said that the government has to be the mommy

 

[Thales750]

Ya think?
Maybe you could learn something like dialing back the Hitler foolishness. You are part of the messaging.

Their messaging sucks, but I doubt it's intentional. They are their own worst enemys, and Trump has tapped into the chaos.

For the last time, stop misquoting me. You obviously know very little about the history of your own party's propaganda efforts. This will be the last time I play this silly word game.

The origins of the STYLE and message of Conservative Propaganda came from Goebbels and Hitler from the 1930s. They invented it to appeal to people like you. Read up on it. You should get something for all the effort you have put into trying to prove a point that only conservatives would agree with.

As far as me being part of the messaging. How so?

 

[Thales750]

And at least 40% (maybe even more) of that is total waste. Civil servants are overpaid and under work - when they even show up - so its a double whammy regarding salaries and then we get to the overly generous health benefits and the stupidly generous retirement benefits and that's before we get to the bridges to nowhere and investigating the sex lives of various animals and insects and the bad loans to insolvent companies who will never repay them and the idiotic overpayment for almost everything the military buys due to stupid, stupid, stupid, downright idiotic procurement processes.

That excess 40% could come back to the people as lower taxes and people will spend their extra money and the economy gets better, not worse. The government MAKES NOTHING. It has certain jobs to do but everything else is just a waste of taxpayer money. Who ever said that the government has to be the mommy

With every word you utter, you prove the effectiveness of listing to lies over, and over, and over, until the lemmings drink the cool aid.

Raising taxes on the wealthiest would accomplished what you are thinking would be accomplished, by reducing the government work force.
Reducing the government work force will shrink the economy. I know you can't understand that concept, but it is a fact.


Both Trump, and Biden, actually did introduce experimental policies to try to resolve some of the root causes. Now they have Musk in there with his new pretend agency. Between mis-thought-out tariffs and reducing the employment in the government, stagflation is going to be the result.
Prices will rise, and the economy will shrink.

And, oh yeah, look up innumeracy.

 

[Thales750]

Defund the SEC, we don't need no stinkin' protections.

Hurry up Elon, there are not enough foxes in the hen house.

CFPB sues JPMorgan Chase, Bank of America and Wells Fargo over Zelle payment fraud​

 

[AccessBlaster]

For the last time, stop misquoting me. You obviously know very little about the history of your own party's propaganda efforts. This will be the last time I play this silly word game.

The origins of the STYLE and message of Conservative Propaganda came from Goebbels and Hitler from the 1930s. They invented it to appeal to people like you. Read up on it. You should get something for all the effort you have put into trying to prove a point that only conservatives would agree with.

As far as me being part of the messaging. How so?

Read the above statement.

 

[Pat Hartman]

And, oh yeah, look up innumeracy.

Transference again. You really think it is better for the economy if the government takes money from me to spend it on totally idiotic "studies" than if I spend that money on consumer goods or services? It is far more efficient if I spend my money directly than when the government funnels it through other parties, each syphoning off some part of it. If the government didn't steal my money to fund the idiotic study, the person conducting the study might have to find a real job.

When my grandchildren were young, I was a volunteer for Junior Achievement for three years. Second through fifth grades. They provided me with fabulous age appropriate teaching material. The second grade program which was 6 one hour lessons taught the children how money moved through the economy. They had jobs in a donut factory and half the class worked on an assembly line and the rest did individual builds and we compared output quantities to determine efficiency. They were given play money in payment for their work and then they got to spend it. Each student had a "job" either providing a service or goods, including tax collector who ended up having to spend his money for the city.

The schools that run the program are usually inner city schools so it wasn't my granddaughter's school I went to. I just used them as guinea pigs to work out how to present the material. The kids were excited to have something different in their day and were well behaved and interested. It was a pleasure for me to interact with them. Two of the three teachers were very good at keeping discipline in the class. The third which was my second outing, left most of that to me.

If any of you have a flexible enough schedule to do something like this, I guarantee, you'll love it.

About JA | Junior Achievement USA

Junior Achievement USA empowers today's youth to succeed through k-12 programming, including work readiness, entrepreneurship, and financial literacy.

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[Thales750]

Transference again. You really think it is better for the economy if the government takes money from me to spend it on totally idiotic "studies" than if I spend that money on consumer goods or services? I

Would you climb over a fence to pick up a penny? When you accuse me of "Transferring" you are the one transferring. You don't even try to distinguish between magnitudes because that is one of the biggest lies being told by conservative propaganda. If you acknowledge that, the whole sweater unravels.

I think that the money paid from taxes to middle class workers increases the size of the economy proportional to the amount of tax plus the value of the economic multiplier.

Social Security, food stamps, assisted living, and other currency injections into the lower classes contribute to the highest economic multipliers.

Your lack of understanding of this fundamental economic concept is why you are so susceptible to conservative trickle down theory.

What would you buy with your increase in spending power derived from the reduction of your taxes?

 

[Thales750]

Read the above statement.

Lame. you can do better than that.

 

[Steve R.]

Social Security, food stamps, assisted living, and other currency injections into the lower classes contribute to the highest economic multipliers.

These programs start out as being very high sounding and humanitarian, but over time they become bloated nightmares that are economically inefficient. They also tend to be an affront to personal responsibility as to why work or even payoff your debts, if the government will give you "free" money.

Your lack of understanding of this fundamental economic concept is why you are so susceptible to conservative trickle down theory.

Apparently you have no understanding of how programs that supposedly "help" the underprivileged, in the end, actually hurt them. The minimum wage being one example as it induces inflation. A positive feedback loop that is actually negative in effect.

 

[AccessBlaster]

Lame. you can do better than that.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1870899663005499474

 

[Pat Hartman]

Can we please separate SS from welfare? The government took money from me at gunpoint for over 50 years with the promise of returning it with interest when i retired. The fact that Congress broke that bond and stole the money and spent it on sex lives of the mongoose studies and tunnels for turtles is what keeps causing the "crisis" with SS payments, not to mention the expansion of benefits beyond what the program was intended to provide.

 

[Thales750]

These programs start out as being very high sounding and humanitarian, but over time they become bloated nightmares that are economically inefficient. They also tend to be an affront to personal responsibility as to why work or even payoff your debts, if the government will give you "free" money.


Apparently you have no understanding of how programs that supposedly "help" the underprivileged, in the end, actually hurt them. The minimum wage being one example as it induces inflation. A positive feedback loop that is actually negative in effect.

I'm not a supporter of increases in minimum wage. That's a whole other subject. And I'm not taking about the supposed objective of distributing currency to the poor. I'm referring to its economic impact.
Now that you understand what I'm referring to, perhaps you can tell me how I don't understand.

 

[Thales750]

Can we please separate SS from welfare? The government took money from me at gunpoint for over 50 years with the promise of returning it with interest when i retired. The fact that Congress broke that bond and stole the money and spent it on sex lives of the mongoose studies and tunnels for turtles is what keeps causing the "crisis" with SS payments, not to mention the expansion of benefits beyond what the program was intended to provide.

Congress doesn't take the money from SS, they borrow it. Big difference. It's one of those innumeracy things.

 

[The_Doc_Man]

When you go into the till to disburse some payments and the only thing in the till is a stack of IOU slips signed "a previous Congress" ... you STILL can't pay the people owed money 'cause that IOU can't be cashed in at any ordinary bank.

Therefore to say that Congress BORROWED the money is an avoidance of reality. Broke is broke.