Trump Administration Predictions

[Thales750]

Like who? Bernie or Hillary?

Well, Bernie is not woke, and he does have a better handle on the biggest problems facing the American People.

 

[Thales750]

Oh, It is very effective. We are rapidly descending in world rankings. We have substituted wokeness for education. Our children are being taught all about using the correct pronouns but nothing about useful subjects such as reading and math. And as our children are failing to achieve grade level in ever larger percentages, we reduce the bar. Now, that is a "helpful" solution. It makes the teachers look like they are performing so the teacher's union can maintain power. And just so that no one is bothered by this, we allow abortion on demand and legalize mind numbing drugs to either kill our children that weren't aborted or keep them in a stupor . Then we import new voters who don't speak English, have no skills and who will be a permanent drain on our welfare system.

Lumping things together is a Nazi Propaganda Style, they probably have a number for it. The US has a huge variation in our teaching standards across the country, and even within a local areas. With Conservative areas as anti-STEM as any Liberal ones.

People have to spend the time to teach their own kids the important things. I mean y'all are all rugged individuals, right?

You all think I'm a liberal, that's fine, but my daughter got as good of a math and science education as anyone, and she went to a public school.

 

[Thales750]

You mean besides Trump?

I simply pointed out that inflation started during Trumps first term. That's a fact, not an opinion, not a blame, a tracible fact.

 

[Thales750]

Yeah, you own that. Along with democrat pundits.

Sad, the only way to make "points" is to preach to the choir, and take my states completely out of context.

 

[The_Doc_Man]

inflation started during Trumps first term

Right about the time that the Democratic Congress started pushing Draconian COVID measures that amounted to overkill because they caved into Big Pharma's desires to keep viable palliatives out of the situation. Gee, I wonder if those two events are somehow related...

 

[Pat Hartman]

The US has a huge variation in our teaching standards across the country, and even within a local areas.

You are correct there. Wealthy school districts are still filling our children's heads with wokeness but at least they also teach the basics. There just isn't time to teach proper use of case with pronouns if everyone has their own pronouns If you look at the charts of what districts spend per child, you can see it makes little difference to the success they have in actually educating children. Utah spends the least amount per child but has an above average grade rating. It is the poorest Democrat cities that keep their residents enslaved and in poverty by failing to engage the parents in the education process.

You all think I'm a liberal, that's fine, but my daughter got as good of a math and science education as anyone, and she went to a public school.

The vast majority of people in the US attend public schools. But my daughter and my grandchildren got nowhere near as good an education as I got even when going through similar school systems. Why? Teachers stopped correcting mistakes because they didn't want to make the child feel "bad".

Lumping things together is a Nazi Propaganda Style,

Everything you disagree with is Nazi Propaganda. Boring.

 

[The_Doc_Man]

take my states completely out of context.

Taking your statements out of context? SOMEONE has to put context on what you say because you seem VERY good at announcing statements in isolation from relevance or reality.

Let's try something different... a simple question. Do you agree that, based on the results of the recent national elections, voters in general were no longer in favor of the direction that the previous (Progressive Liberal) administration was going? I'm not going to further qualify "no longer in favor" because I don't want to name a specific cause that you would probably try to latch on as a point of pointless argument. The voters were no longer in favor of the people in office. Do you agree? (Should be a simple question since I'm distancing the question from specifics.)

 

[Thales750]

Right about the time that the Democratic Congress started pushing Draconian COVID measures that amounted to overkill because they caved into Big Pharma's desires to keep viable palliatives out of the situation. Gee, I wonder if those two events are somehow related...

A usual answer, with your limited vision, it was more complicated than that.

Don't you ever get tired of blaming everything on the Dems? The point was, that I wasn't blaming Trump for the inflation.

But, blaming Biden is pure propaganda. Inflation has been brewing for some time now.

This latest round was purely driven by corporate greed.

Do you even have any idea why inflation went away in the 80s? I bet you don't actually know. Do you know why the financial sector crash of 2008 didn't turn into another great depression. You have to actually apply the same level of intellectual curiosity you applied to building data systems as you do understanding macro economics. And don't say you do, there are some obvious large holes in your thinking.

You blame everything on Dems, and you think that is a good enough answer.

There was plenty of Covid mismanagement to go around.

 

[Thales750]

Taking your statements out of context? SOMEONE has to put context on what you say because you seem VERY good at announcing statements in isolation from relevance or reality.

Let's try something different... a simple question. Do you agree that, based on the results of the recent national elections, voters in general were no longer in favor of the direction that the previous (Progressive Liberal) administration was going? I'm not going to further qualify "no longer in favor" because I don't want to name a specific cause that you would probably try to latch on as a point of pointless argument. The voters were no longer in favor of the people in office. Do you agree? (Should be a simple question since I'm distancing the question from specifics.)

I have been saying something very similar to that for a very long time. You still cannot fathom that my anti-conservative position does not translate to a pro-liberal one. Because you are brainwashed, end of story.

Here's are a few better questions:

Why did Hillary systematically push traditionally Democratic voters over to Trump?
Why didn't Biden resign 18 months ago and make Harris President then?
Why can't Dems find a language that works for everyday people?

What is this?
Harris can't even talk.


Why do so many Democratic voters prefer a Republican in office over one of their own whose only fault was to not cater to yet another minority dog wagging tail?

Why did consumer confidence stoop to it's lowest level in 6 months, after God was elected in Nov? Sorry that one just slipped.

How is WOKE serving the Democratic Party?

This is all very simple. The powers that control all media, gear the message to support a unified Conservative slant. The reason is simple.

I know the answer, you won't like it.

Dems are the other side of the same coin.

 

[Thales750]

The vast majority of people in the US attend public schools. But my daughter and my grandchildren got nowhere near as good an education as I got even when going through similar school systems. Why? Teachers stopped correcting mistakes because they didn't want to make the child feel "bad".

Then you should have done something about it. I did. That's what I meant by most people just talk the talk. I walked the walk, she is the product of that effort.
The best public schools are generally close to areas with a strong local Federal Government presence. Think about that.

Educated locations have better schools.

 

[Thales750]

Everything you disagree with is Nazi Propaganda. Boring.

Not everything, just when you are quoting straight from the Book. Which, is so often, it sounds like a boring broken record.

 

[Thales750]

You are correct there. Wealthy school districts are still filling our children's heads with wokeness but at least they also teach the basics. There just isn't time to teach proper use of case with pronouns if everyone has their own pronouns If you look at the charts of what districts spend per child, you can see it makes little difference to the success they have in actually educating children. Utah spends the least amount per child but has an above average grade rating. It is the poorest Democrat cities that keep their residents enslaved and in poverty by failing to engage the parents in the education process.

Have you ever wondered why you are so obsessed with WOKE?

And oh yeah, poor Democratic cities got that way because their capitalist over lords move the factories to China.

Now those poor Republican areas that actually do have the worst schools in the county, you know the ones that want to promote their brand of religion...
Well, they came by their poor backwoods redneck thinking quite honestly, they earned it.

 

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[The_Doc_Man]

You still cannot fathom that my anti-conservative position does not translate to a pro-liberal one.

There are a limited number of named positions, but I'll certainly grant that you don't have to follow any of them. You can be anti-conservative - and when it comes to the Religious Right, I am DEFINITELY not in favor of them. You can be anti-Progressive Liberal, and again I don't have a problem with that situation as well. So you are a person with piecemeal beliefs, an a-la-carte activist.

I disagree with some of your evaluations because I take a more pragmatic viewpoint. I can only buy what the store offers to sell, and can only vote for (or against) the candidates who are running on the ticket. Even though I might disagree on some points with every individual in Congress, the only way to get ideas from imagination to fruition requires support of some of those labeled politicians whose labels don't match mine.

 

[The_Doc_Man]

they earned it.

By the sweat of their brow. Some people promote simplistic viewpoints because so many politicians do their DAMNEDEST to obfuscate what is really going on, and those "rednecks" you talk about are just trying to survive with what talents and knowledge they have in a world full of strongly worded opinions coming from every direction. But if you KNEW those rednecks (like I do, given my family's roots in rural Alabama and poor parts of New Orleans), you would know they are mostly good, honest, and well-meaning people who simply want to belong to a community in which they feel comfortable. It's predictable through anthropology, with people gathering into tribes of the familiar.

 

[Thales750]

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See, I never said Trump was Hitler. So, not only out of context, but also fabricated.
You are pretty funny, even with the brainwashed motivation, it's pretty funny.

 

[Thales750]

By the sweat of their brow. Some people promote simplistic viewpoints because so many politicians do their DAMNEDEST to obfuscate what is really going on, and those "rednecks" you talk about are just trying to survive with what talents and knowledge they have in a world full of strongly worded opinions coming from every direction. But if you KNEW those rednecks (like I do, given my family's roots in rural Alabama and poor parts of New Orleans), you would know they are mostly good, honest, and well-meaning people who simply want to belong to a community in which they feel comfortable. It's predictable through anthropology, with people gathering into tribes of the familiar.

I do know them, I come from a family of them.
I'm not talking about that part, I'm talking about the pride in ignorance. The lack of science, the blaming the government for all of their failures. Everything with you is from a single perspective, isn't Doc? You think your knowledge of even the simplest of concepts is unique to your ideology?

 

[The_Doc_Man]

Everything with you is from a single perspective,

Since I am a single person rather than a member of a gestalt hive, I MUST at base have a single perspective, even though sometimes I am beside myself with frustration over someone with a really bad attitude. You might find others on this forum who will attest to my ability to see many sides of an issue, perhaps even to THEIR frustration. I find you arrogant and insulting, with an overbearing - and, to me, unwarranted - "better than thou" attitude. That, too, is the result of my single perspective. But I will remain polite and respectful. I will, however, ask if you are aware of the "definition of frustration" T-shirt slogan.

 

[Thales750]

There are a limited number of named positions, but I'll certainly grant that you don't have to follow any of them. You can be anti-conservative - and when it comes to the Religious Right, I am DEFINITELY not in favor of them. You can be anti-Progressive Liberal, and again I don't have a problem with that situation as well. So you are a person with piecemeal beliefs, an a-la-carte activist.

I disagree with some of your evaluations because I take a more pragmatic viewpoint. I can only buy what the store offers to sell, and can only vote for (or against) the candidates who are running on the ticket. Even though I might disagree on some points with every individual in Congress, the only way to get ideas from imagination to fruition requires support of some of those labeled politicians whose labels don't match mine.

Well said.
I'm not sure about the more pragmatic part. There was a retired Navel Captain I knew years ago, a Conservative, I used to argue with the more brainwashed conservatives at the cigar bar. Like you, they would get emotional about what I had to say, (which was years before those concepts were repeated by mainstream media). He always said I was pragmatic. That was a great compliment but expected since I have been a small business owner for most of my life.

For instance even back in the 90s I knew what was coming for us from China. I'm very pragmatic Doc. Like you on this forum I take on a variation of my true self. Less inclined to show my more balanced views. I only have two socialists views.

Not a single person on this forum has even chosen to ask about that.

 

[Pat Hartman]

The best public schools are generally close to areas with a strong local Federal Government presence. Think about that.

Like the ones in DC I guess that's why members of Congress and anyone else with money send their children to private schools or live outside the District where the schools are better. One person can't get rid of woke. Luckily the Democrats pushed so far with their Marxist agenda that the general public "woke" up and is seeing the problem. Having once been teenage boys themselves, no father I've ever spoken to wants ANY boys in their daughter's changing rooms or beating up their little girl in a wrestling match or stealing scholarships from them. But we have serious social cracks to heal that were caused by the Democrat's outright hatred of America and white people in general. Black people have been convinced by the Democrats that the police are actively out gunning for them. I grew up being told that the police were our friends and inner city kids (of all colors) grow up being told to run from the police and that actually starts many of the problems that arise. But, the statistics show the lie that the Democrats push.