Trump Administration Predictions (1 Viewer)

[The_Doc_Man]

@Thales750 - I've looked at your know-it-all posts for months now and I'm sick and tired of you how post, which includes innumerable attacks of the argumentum ad hominem and argumentum ad autoritatum variety. Here's your challenge. Run for political office and convince people how well off they will be when you are running things. Establish a performance track record based on all that you claim to understand in a way that we don't understand. Put up or shut up.

 

[Pat Hartman]

Years in prison for dumb small stuff was horribly unjust. Pardons were in order for most of these people anyway.

And so Trump didn't pardon the people who committed violence. The issue is that the lefties have brainwashed themselves into believing that any one in the vicinity of the Capitol on that day was there to over throw the government. Logic be damned. The fact that most of the people who attended probably had guns but left them home because they were not even remotely thinking about overthrowing the government. What type of person who owns guns would go to an insurrection and leave the guns home? The answer is ----- a Democrat So the whole thing is a case of transference OR the Dems are dumber than treestumps.

Keep in mind, they are STILL arresting people, FOUR YEARS after the event who were "parading" and sentencing them to four months in prison. The punishment simply does not fit the "crime". All the pardoned J6 people have a good case for judicial abuse. There was nothing fair in how they were treated. That is not how justice works in the US.

 

[Isaac]

Tariffs: My prediction is that whatever tariffs Trump puts in place will have a mixed effect. In some industries and with some companies (the ones who choose not to absorb the $ change to the supply chain), prices will go up for a while. Also, some industries will move their operations to the USA, which ultimately will benefit the USA a lot. Temporary pain.

Kind of like cutting the too-many government services - obviously there's going to be pain from someone who maybe is used to getting grant money for stupid stuff, or has lived on welfare for 10 years, or have avoided getting married to game the Dole system in general, or whatever else the government finds some way to spend an unbelievable amount of money on people who generally ought to be providing for themselves. Temporary pain, but good for the deficit and debt.

Liberals don't seem to mind temporary pain at all when it comes to climate change - EV mandates, product bans, more expensive energy. They don't because they realize it's for the right purpose. Tariffs may prove to be a little like that, but I have no idea if I'll end up being right or not

https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/22/economy/jamie-dimon-tariffs-get-over-it/index.html

 

[Isaac]

And so Trump didn't pardon the people who committed violence. The issue is that the lefties have brainwashed themselves into believing that any one in the vicinity of the Capitol on that day was there to over throw the government. Logic be damned. The fact that most of the people who attended probably had guns but left them home because they were not even remotely thinking about overthrowing the government. What type of person who owns guns would go to an insurrection and leave the guns home? The answer is ----- a Democrat So the whole thing is a case of transference OR the Dems are dumber than treestumps.

Keep in mind, they are STILL arresting people, FOUR YEARS after the event who were "parading" and sentencing them to four months in prison. The punishment simply does not fit the "crime". All the pardoned J6 people have a good case for judicial abuse. There was nothing fair in how they were treated. That is not how justice works in the US.

Whole heartedly agree. The majority of the people didn't do anything wrong, basically, and the majority of the prosecutions were seriously overcharged and oversentenced in rabidly liberal courthouses. Pardons are good in this case, although a more precise delivery of "the message" might have been achieved by calling them "commutations of sentences" (i.e., you might have done some tiny thing wrong but your sentence is long since served by justice) - but I'm not going to nitpick semantics

 

[Thales750]

I have no idea what the heck you mean.

I posted a chart of the dow

 

[Thales750]

@Thales750 - I've looked at your know-it-all posts for months now and I'm sick and tired of you how post, which includes innumerable attacks of the argumentum ad hominem and argumentum ad autoritatum variety. Here's your challenge. Run for political office and convince people how well off they will be when you are running things. Establish a performance track record based on all that you claim to understand in a way that we don't understand. Put up or shut up.

What would like to know ?

 

[AccessBlaster]

I posted a chart of the dow

I understand the chart, it's your explanation that has me scratching my head

 

[Pat Hartman]

So, @Thales750, what do you think of Jamie Dimond's opinion on tariffs? He's a bridge player you know.

 

[Thales750]

So, @Thales750, what do you think of Jamie Dimond's opinion on tariffs? He's a bridge player you know.

He's hopeful, that's a good thing. I've been a believer in tariffs for as long as I can remember. The devil will be in the details.

 

[Thales750]

I understand the chart, it's your explanation that has me scratching my head

The Dow has been rising fot 4 years. Did you mention that part?
No?
There you have it.

 

[AccessBlaster]

... I've been a believer in tariffs for as long as I can remember.

Really?

 

[Thales750]

Really?

Of course.

Had you been paying attention when I write, you would have known that it was just Trump's moronic application of them that I objected to.

He started with solar panels. Not too bad, a good start really, although solar panels are a supply chain product. However, they are up the chain from the bottom.
2. Washing Machines. At the very top of the chain, so very good
3. Steel and aluminum. Other than maybe Oil, there could not be a worse thing to collect tariffs on than raw metals (or nearly raw). It's bad for the US businesses, it's bad for the US workers, it's bad for the US consumers. Only a total moron would do this. Almost for sure, it was a contributing factor in the inflation you all blamed on Biden.

What the Biden Administration did do was remove the idiotic Trump tariffs on steel from Europe and imposed tariffs on steel from Mexico that was originally smelted in China or Russia.

So, you all blame Biden for things that Trump caused. My reward for understanding how this works is for some of you to claim I'm a lefty. and you wonder why I accuse y'all of being cool aid drinkers.

The difference is that I come tom my conclusion by studying actual trade journals and financial reports. Cool aid drinkers get their info from talking heads.

You can actually look up those facts.

Question: How did we (We being the Fed and the Federal Government) end inflation in the early 1980s?

 

[NauticalGent]

Question: How did we (We being the Fed and the Federal Government) end inflation in the early 1980s

The only way to reduce inflation is to stop printing money and/or raise interest rates... both actions by the Fereral Reserve. The ugly by-product is recession.

No one has the stomach for that so the "fix" was only temporary.

 

[Thales750]

The only way to reduce inflation is to stop printing money and/or raise interest rates... both actions by the Fereral Reserve. The ugly by-product is recession.

No one has the stomach for that so the "fix" was only temporary.

Absolutely on relation at all. That is straight out of the cool aid cooler.

How did the US "Print Money" for almost 40 years with zero inflation, it was actually 3 percent, which is exactly the goal.

Explain that? Most people, and all conservatives, don't really ask questions like that. They are too busy repeating the party line, or calling me an idiot. Which you do, I'm ok with that because I know I'm not and don't really suffer from self esteem issues. But I do suffer from people that are smart enough to know better quoting made up theories.

I ask again, why didn't we have unmanaged inflation from 1982 until 2020 or maybe 2021? There are several reason that you never hear on any conservative dis-info channels.

I can answer it.

 

[The_Doc_Man]

I can answer it.

As I've stated before, all of this bragging leads to a put-up or shut-up situation. Answer it or don't.

I'll make a guess to answer this question:

How did the US "Print Money" for almost 40 years with zero inflation

Perhaps because during the indicated time, the growth in money supply was matched by a growth in value added through labor in some national statistic or another, probably related to GNP. I would be guessing as to which specific statistic you would use.

 

[Steve R.]

How did the US "Print Money" for almost 40 years with zero inflation, it was actually 3 percent, which is exactly the goal.

When did your 40 year time span begin and end?
Explain: "it was actually 3 percent, which is exactly the goal."

 

[Thales750]

As I've stated before, all of this bragging leads to a put-up or shut-up situation. Answer it or don't.

I'll make a guess to answer this question:

Perhaps because during the indicated time, the growth in money supply was matched by a growth in value added through labor in some national statistic or another, probably related to GNP. I would be guessing as to which specific statistic you would use.

That's definitely a part of it.

You and I already had a discussion about the dollar being the Reserve currency based on being the only currency that OPEC would except as payment. That is exactly why it is backed by Oil and is the reserve currency. You are unwilling to consider it even when it is a known fact, and has been one of the main reasons.

The thing is that y'all that includes you, have been insulting and have ignored or denied many facts. You have been for years. Trump was a big factor in the inflation, you all blame it on Biden. Nothing will change that.

Y'all have been taught that trickle down works and government overspending causes inflation. You have to do analysis not just parroting the talking heads.


What caused the inflation in the 70s?

 

[NauticalGent]

Absolutely on relation at all. That is straight out of the cool aid cooler.

You will have to excuse me if I take the view point of known economists and the theory of fiat currency over the opinion of a forum member with an inflated sense of self-importance. But I am willing and actually interested in what you may have to say.

Please, shock and awe me with your brilliance...

 

[The_Doc_Man]

The thing is that y'all that includes you, have been insulting

And you haven't? Polish up your mirror, friend.

 

[The_Doc_Man]

you all blame it on Biden.

How many stimulus checks were flooded out during the Biden COVID recovery efforts? That was checks for money not covered by growth in GNP or GDP because people still weren't working, and that was the Biden administration.