All good fun?

[Ron_dK]

Yes we used to burn witches at the stake too, but some cultures have moved on

You mean, you now buy the lamp and/or lubrication oil from the middle east ?
That's quite a cultural change

 

[Ron_dK]

I take it that your comment is a bash at the Canadians for not having the intelligence to update their methods of culling seals

No the blame is on the Brits for introducing vile habits to the Canadian originates.
But at the same time I reckon that the Dutch were no good either if you look at what we did at Nova Zembla and these places. Luckely there were hardly any natives around at that time, so they could not adapt our methods of staying warm.

 

[ColinEssex]

No the blame is on the Brits for introducing vile habits to the Canadian originates.

I think all the "pioneering" nations in the 18th century (like the British / Spanish / French / Dutch / Portugese) all had some pretty vile habits then

However, in most civilised countries, things have improved somewhat since then. Like going round invading countries just because someone doesn't like their leader - I'm glad things have improved.

Col

 

[KenHigg]

...Secondly, Selena your quote seems a touch paranoid, I didn't mention Americans, I merely quoted a newspaper article and asked Ken (in his opinion as a hunter gatherer) if this was hunting. . . . . . . .still not answered by Ken BTW.

Hum... I really don't know how to answer that. It is not like the hunting I do. But to them it may be hunting. I'm guessing there may be some other primary differences. Like I'm guessing it provides a means of income for them. My type hunting, not so much...

My question is what business is it of yours? It's on the other side of the world, it's not an endangered species, it doesn't appear that they are wasting much, and it provides a way for them to put a roof over their head. I say butt out and stop trying to impose your moral values on someone half the way around the world... (Now I realize you're going to do a morals/Bush/Iraq response so go a head and get it off your chest...)

 

[MrsGorilla]

warning drivers of the presence of deer in the area

Surely you meant to say set up signs warning deer of the presence of drivers in the area.

And, incidentally, I do think we have these signs in many areas already. It's still quite a shock when one leaps out in front of your vehicle though.

 

[MrsGorilla]

Yes we used to burn witches at the stake too, but some cultures have moved on

Yes, we have. When are you guys going to join us?

 

[ColinEssex]

My question is what business is it of yours? It's on the other side of the world,

Canada may seem "on the other side of the world" to you - after all, it is beyond the US borders. But its merely a hop across the pond for us. New Zealand is on the other side of the world to us.

it provides a way for them to put a roof over their head. I say butt out and stop trying to impose your moral values on someone half the way around the world...

Once again you have totally missed the point. Personally, I am not against a cull, its bludgeoning them to death that seems extreme for most civilised people.

(Now I realize you're going to do a morals/Bush/Iraq response so go a head and get it off your chest...)

No need to - you already did it. Anyway, I'm not here to teach the Americans about morals

Col

 

[ColinEssex]

Yes, we have. When are you guys going to join us?

when the US catches up with the UK. I think we'd prefer not to make a retrograde step

Col

 

[KenHigg]

Once again you have totally missed the point. Personally, I am not against a cull, its bludgeoning them to death that seems extreme for most civilised people.

I think it is you that has missed the point. What business is it of yours?

 

[ColinEssex]

I think it is you that has missed the point. What business is it of yours?

Its as much my business as it is for any civilised person. Any cruelty to animals is barbaric. I include -


* Foxhunting in the UK with dogs
* Clubbing baby seals to death with a piece of wood with a spike in it in Canada
* Forcing bears to hop about by burning their feet in Turkey
* Keeping bears stood in a cage and force feeding them and draining their bile for a Chinese aphrodiziac
* **** fighting
* Dog fighting
* Tying the necks of geese up straight and force feeding them in France to get Fois Gras
* Shooting deer or anything that moves just for the hell of it
* Badger baiting in the UK
* Testing products on animals in the UK and other countries
* Killing rhino and elephants for their tusks in Africa

Col

 

[Rich]

I think it is you that has missed the point. What business is it of yours?

What business was Nam, Panama, Cuba, Iraq etc. etc. of yours ?

 

[KenHigg]

Its as much my business as it is for any civilised person. Any cruelty to animals is barbaric. I include -

That was quite a list. E for effort... However, attempting to put all them in the same category as the seal cull is a little feeble, even for you...

I suppose a 'civilised' person would base their judgment on tabloid reporting... So far we have the tabloid version of what happens and the Canadian government version. I'll take the latter...

Besides, in the end there is not that much difference in what happens in your slaughter houses and what appears to happen in Canada no matter how you slice it (No pun intended )...

 

[KenHigg]

What business was Nam, Panama, Cuba, Iraq etc. etc. of yours ?

I knew I could count on you to pick up the slack Ricki...

 

[Rich]

But I'm glad you can be the bigger man and apologize. That's more than we can say about SOME people around here.

true love means never having to say sorry

 

[KenHigg]

true love means never having to say sorry

So does an oversize ego...

 

[Rich]

So does an oversize ego...

yes and we've pointed that trait out to you guys on numerous occassions

 

[ColinEssex]

Kenny - as far as I can see, and you'll correct me if I'm wrong.

You appear to agree with clubbing seals to death instead of a more humane cull.

You dismiss the other atroscities to animals worldwide as being "feeble"

You dismiss a UK newspaper photo and article as being untrue just because the paper is a tabloid? (Shall I find a US paper that reports it?)

You think (presumably) anything outside ones own country is none of ones business.

Yet you continue to preach this blinkered approach of yours - whilst on the other hand dismissing everything else as irelevant. Then critisise the UK abbotoirs whilst thinking that the US ones are better?

Col

 

[Rich]

when the US catches up with the UK.

Col

There's not much chance of that whilst the Republicans hold sway

 

[KenHigg]

Kenny - as far as I can see, and you'll correct me if I'm wrong.

You appear to agree with clubbing seals to death instead of a more humane cull.

I never said that. Given a choice, the less they have to suffer the better. But you'll never make everyone happy

You dismiss the other atroscities to animals worldwide as being "feeble"

It was your comparison that was feeble...

You dismiss a UK newspaper photo and article as being untrue just because the paper is a tabloid? (Shall I find a US paper that reports it?)

I never said it was untrue. Just maybe white-washed a little in order to get your money. (I'm sure if you read that particular over-sensationalized trash you must have American versions laying around your house...)

You think (presumably) anything outside ones own country is none of ones business.

Never said that. We're not talking about anything. We're talking about the seal issue...

Yet you continue to preach this blinkered approach of yours - whilst on the other hand dismissing everything else as irelevant. Then critisise the UK abbotoirs whilst thinking that the US ones are better?Col

I never critizied your slaughter houses, just your assertion that you were somehow a better person for using them instead of what some of the Canadian people do...

 

[selenau837]

seems a touch paranoid, I didn't mention Americans, I merely quoted a newspaper article and asked Ken (in his opinion as a hunter gatherer) if this was hunting. . . . . . . .still not answered by Ken BTW.

Well Colin, with the past history of slamming Americans, I jumped to conclusion. My apologies if you weren't meaning to slam Americans with your comment.

There's not much chance of that whilst the Republicans hold sway

Hey I'm Republican and dang proud of it.