Microsoft Access: Edge Browser Control is finally here :)

[isladogs]

Most if not all of your points in the first part of your post have been covered already in this lengthy thread.
As for your questions ...

Now my questions:

• If the final user doesn't have Edge installed, does he have to install it to correctly see any content of the new web browser control?
  • I think the answer is YES
• If the final user doesn't have Acrobat Reader installed, does he have to install it to correctly pdf files in the new web browser control?
  • Again the answer should be YES
• If the final user has an older version of Access (for instance 2010) can he still use my database with the new web browser control?
  • I really don't know
• If the final user doesn' have Access at all, but I could give (download) him the Access Runtime, will he be able to use my database with the new web browser control?
  • I really don't know. And which version?

Thanks for the attention,
Lauro

1. No - Edge does NOT need to be installed
2. No - to Acrobat Reader as well
3. No - the Edge browser control only appears in A365. In older versions, there will be a blank space in place of the control
4. Yes - If the A365 runtime version has a build following the official release of the new Edge browser control - otherwise No

 

[lauro]

Most if not all of your points in the first part of your post have been covered already in this lengthy thread.
As for your questions ...



1. No - Edge does NOT need to be installed
2. No - to Acrobat Reader as well
3. No - the Edge browser control only appears in A365. In older versions, there will be a blank space in place of the control
4. Yes - If the A365 runtime version has a build following the official release of the new Edge browser control - otherwise No

Thanks for the answer!
So I have to hope that Microsoft will soon release a new build of the A365 runtime.
Following your experience when that could it happen? Few or several months?
Thank again, Lauro

 

[isladogs]

I'll alert @JoeJimenezMicrosoft about the runtime issue as well but have you checked whether or not its already available in the 365 runtime?

 

[JoeJimenezMicrosoft]

Hi Joe, thank you for your prompt response and checking. I am using a fairly straightforward script, as below. This script is working well for users on the current channel. but return timeout error for Insider build Microsoft® Access® for Microsoft 365 MSO (Version 2306 Build 16.0.16505.20000) 64-bit, no matter what I try, the return result is the timeout message: RetrieveJavascriptValue timed out. Please verify the JavaScript expression supplied is valid.

Javascript Expression:
Me.txtHTML = Me.EdgeBrowser1.RetrieveJavascriptValue("document.getElementsByTagName('table')[0].innerHTML")

Please let me know if you need any additional information, or have any questions.

Some code external to Access changed and resulted in RetrieveJavascriptValue breaking. I locally reverted their change, and that javascript works fine. I'll talk to the team to pull that change before it hits prod. Thanks for reporting, very helpful

 

[lauro]

I'll alert @JoeJimenezMicrosoft about the runtime issue as well but have you checked whether or not its already available in the 365 runtime?

Thanks again.
How could I check if it's already available in A365 runtime? In this page I cannot find any indications.
Lauro

 

[isladogs]

Nor me. Suggest you download it to a machine with no Access installed and see if the Edge browser control works!

 

[lauro]

Nor me. Suggest you download it to a machine with no Access installed and see if the Edge browser control works!

Thank for the suggestion.
I tried to download and install on a Windows 8 laptop, but it tells me to upgrade to windows 10.
I think I'm going to wait. I wanted something to run also on older computer.
Thanks again, anyway, Lauro

 

[JoeJimenezMicrosoft]

Thanks again.
How could I check if it's already available in A365 runtime? In this page I cannot find any indications.
Lauro

Due to an oversight on our end it wasn't included in the runtime in the last monthly build, but it should be included in the build that releases in the next few days.

 

[isladogs]

@JoeJimenezMicrosoft
Thanks for clarifying the situation Joe

@lauro
If my memory is correct, Microsoft 365 will only work in Windows 10 or later.

 

[KitaYama]

If my memory is correct, Microsoft 365 will only work in Windows 10 or later.

Your memory is correct. Microsoft documentation claims Microsoft 365 only works in windows 10 and later.
But Microsoft seems to be wrong.
We have a Windows 8.1 machine that is running Microsoft 365 for the past few years (with latest updates)
We can not replace this PC because of the programs running on this machine doesn't support Windows 10.

 

[themikesg]

Has anyone been able to get the Stretch Anchoring working on the new Edge Web Browser control? When I resize the Form window or the Access app window, the browser does not resize correctly. @JoeJimenezMicrosoft

 

[isladogs]

Trying to do that makes no sense
You can stretch the control but not the contents of the web page as that is outside of Access and cannot be controlled by Access

Make the browser control the size you need it to be and ignore anchoring

 

[themikesg]

Then let me illustrate the issue further..
The legacy web browser control resizes the HTML content correctly with the size of the anchored control, while the new Edge web browser control does not as shown in the screenshot.

This feature is used by many of my clients, for instance a pop up form showing a Google Maps canvas that can be resized at the user’s discretion.

 

[isladogs]

Just tested using my own website in both the 'modern' Edge & Legacy browser control
I can't replicate your results whether the Edge control is on the left or right

 

[Mohsin Malik]

Just tested using my own website in both the 'modern' Edge & Legacy browser control
I can't replicate your results whether the Edge control is on the left or right

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Thanks @isladogs and @themikesg. I think I am able to replicate @themikesg issue. When you try to change the window size of the form the horizontal/vertical anchor property for the Edge Browser control does not seem to be working. Please see the video as a quick reference (link:

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[themikesg]

Yes thank you @Mohsin Malik. Here is the issue broken down further, I am not sure why Isladogs heading content is not loading on IE for me but it is not needed for the example.

When opening 2 Access forms at smaller initial size and then expanding the forms, the new Edge Web Browser control's HTML content does not resize but you can see the control's borders do resize. While the Legacy Web Browser control's HTML content resizes correctly. I have several clients waiting on a fix for this issue before they can implement the new Web browser control. @JoeJimenezMicrosoft

"The legacy web browser control resizes the HTML content correctly with the size of the anchored control, while the new Edge web browser control does not"

 

[JoeJimenezMicrosoft]

Has anyone been able to get the Stretch Anchoring working on the new Edge Web Browser control? When I resize the Form window or the Access app window, the browser does not resize correctly. @JoeJimenezMicrosoft

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This is a known issue and will be fixed soon

 

[TedSla]

Fascinating dialogue. This capability breathes lots of new possibilities.

Client usability question.

With the ability to view a supplier's 'place orders' website page, could the data entered be trapped and written to the Access DB when page/form Submit button is clicked?

 

[isladogs]

Quite possibly. Use the RetrieveJavascriptValue method.
For example, see the new version of my app which pulls the current geolocation from an HTML file using this approach

Get Current Geolocation

Use this utility to obtain your current geolocation in Access and display a map.

www.isladogs.co.uk

However, in this example, the process can be quite slow, usually taking several seconds.
It used to work far faster in the old IE control but that no longer works for this purpose

 

[GPGeorge]

Does anyone know when these issues will be fixed?

Spoiler: etc

1) Allowing spaces in local file names,
2) Having the control in a tab (say tab 3) and updating the link. Links work but the content only briefly shows (sometimes). It doesn't show in the tab again unless a different tab is selected and then the original tab selected again.

Nope. Probably not even Microsoft has a hard target date. And if they do, they ain't telling....