Second Civil War in USA

I guess this is the Democrat's version of "White supremacy"

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Wait, actually there is no meaning to that term. It means anyone who opposes Democrat power.
 
Isaac said:
I guess this is the Democrat's version of "White supremacy"
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I thought it was the republican version of "Patriot" but in reality he's just the B.O.P.'s version of "Convict" At least for the next 12 1/2 years.

Article in our local paper today about banners, posters, and flyers appearing along the 50 mile corridor running through our county by the white supremacy group "Patriot Front"
 
moke123 said:
I thought it was the republican version of "Patriot" but in reality he's just the B.O.P.'s version of "Convict" At least for the next 12 1/2 years.

Article in our local paper today about banners, posters, and flyers appearing along the 50 mile corridor running through our county by the white supremacy group "Patriot Front"
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What makes Patriot Front white supremacist?

PS - this term has been applied a bit too liberally by some (not sure if you or not, just sayin) - to apply to any organization where they happen to be white, and are nationalistic. Which by the way...there is nothing wrong with whatsoever.
 
Don't you have google?

The men, who believe the United States is a nation that belongs only to white people, wear uniforms made up of bomber jackets, face coverings, and beige khakis, mandate weight loss and intense workouts, and regularly practice hand-to-hand combat. Some openly call themselves “supremacist” and revere Hitler and Mussolini.
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en.wikipedia.org

Patriot Front - Wikipedia

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apnews.com

31 Patriot Front members arrested near Idaho pride event

Authorities arrested 31 members of the white supremacist group Patriot Front near an Idaho pride event Saturday after they were found packed into the back of a U-Haul truck with riot gear.
apnews.com apnews.com

Or are they the GOP version of antifa?
 
moke123 said:
Don't you have google?



en.wikipedia.org

Patriot Front - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org
apnews.com

31 Patriot Front members arrested near Idaho pride event

Authorities arrested 31 members of the white supremacist group Patriot Front near an Idaho pride event Saturday after they were found packed into the back of a U-Haul truck with riot gear.
apnews.com apnews.com

Or are they the GOP version of antifa?
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Your reply illustrates the problem.

I see what the governors of wikipedia say, and I see what the ADL says.
We already know the ADL is a nonsense left wing organization that says everyone is a hate organization if they don't support the current leftwing fad, so I'll completely disregard that. Other sources are interesting, but not determinative.

What does Patriot Front say?

Why would you determine what an organization stands for from somewhere/someone other than the organization??

I don't ask Google what Moke thinks, I ask Moke. What moke tells me his opinion is is what his opinion is.

Give me something from Patriot Front that shows they are white supremacist?

And what in the world does protesting a Pride event have to do with "white supremacy" ??

Your arguments are usually quite a bit more compelling than this so I'll assume you're having a rough day or didn't have much time.
 
Another great example is the proud boys. I see every liberal and their brother acting as if anyone who is associated with the proud boys is bad.
But I don't necessarily see this as the case.

Yes, there have been some instances of proud boys doing bad things. But there have been instances of EVERY organization doing bad things.
My goodness......if everyone had categorized BLM based on the worst things their members did, they literally wouldn't have lasted a week!
But everyone was especially hesitant to do that because of the word 'black'. There was that privilege of "give them the benefit of the doubt", because ostensibly, their motives were good (even though week after week after week many of their actions were terrible, and arrests were many).

Ok, so the proud boys are proud of american heritage, mostly comprised of white people (and hispanics BTW), they hate the current status of immigration, and they're militia-leaning.

How does that make everyone of the proud boys bad? To me they look like an organization with good goals, and truthful sentiments, which is bound to attract a 10% bad. Kind of like you, @moke123 , probably view BLM.

But I don't go around labeling every black person who is proud of blacks, black power, and black culture to be "black supremacists". (Even though I believe some are, but it's not a common response to the phenomenon).

We need to reduce the # of truthful things that are taboo to say, so we can all talk freely and admit the truths that are currently 'forbidden' to discuss. Ironically, this is what libs call an "uncomfortable conversation".
 
Lol. I don't have the gumption to explain this... Doc or Pat, this is one for either of you...
 
This is not a mansplane, this is a Britsplane.

The FBI agents have come along to the rally to inflame the situation with the goal of manufacturing instances that allow them to arrest patriots.

This tactic has a resemblance to similar tactics used in the January 6 United States Capitol attack .
 
I don't know who the guys in masks were or why they were being called Nazi's. I do like their cute matching outfits though. Really preppy. Looks like college kids to me. Who else dresses like this? All I can say is American patriots don't wear masks. Notice the resemblance below.

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Nazi's don't hide their faces because they're not ashamed of their beliefs. Maybe Democrats hide behind masks because deep down they really know their beliefs are evil and immoral and they don't want to be recognized.
 
Uncle Gizmo said:
Can anyone explain to me what's going on here, I'm completely in the dark!


https://twitter.com/x/status/1672981094902185986
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UG, it means that (whether or not the twitter video/event you posted actually is an example of this, I don't know and don't wish to spend any effort finding out particularly on this one), but it goes to the general ongoing major efforts by left-wingers to maintain and increase whatever momentum they had or thought they had (especially since George Floyd, who quite obviously changed the world with his awful and tragic death) with regards to promoting to the public, the idea that right-wing organizations and people are mostly racist "meanies" who hate [here insert anyone they think they can convince you of, although ironically, most of the items on this list can be pretty easily debunked by looking at actual facts, I can tell you more about this if interested in truth).

So for example, if the Proud Boys has a rally to encourage people to support American culture and American founding principles, and yes they may even dare suggest that European immigration not mass south american migration was what America was based on which is of course the Truth) ... you might have left-wingers show up to "infiltrate" the event and do something particularly reprehensible in everyone's eyes, in order to make people think for the cameras purpose, that the Proud Boys represents that behavior/idea/people.

In some cases they have been very open about it, (or very stupid and busted, I'm not sure which, but usually they are relatively smart, with the notable exception of Antifa, who are dumb as a bag of hammers), like this:

theintercept.com

Internal Emails Show How a Lincoln Project Tiki Torch Stunt Went Wrong

Democrats were accused of manufacturing a white supremacist hoax, but internal plans show the stunt was rooted in their doomed, Trump-focused strategy.
theintercept.com theintercept.com
 
"The Timeless and Universal Truths and Principles About Order and Disorder That Are Most Relevant Now.
I believe that it is true for all people in all collective activities (sport, organizations, governments, etc.) that if…

a) there is no acceptable way to agree on what is probably true (e.g., there is no equivalent of instant replay in a sport) and…
b) both sides don’t trust the referees/judges because they believe that they are under the influence of the other side, and …
c) rather than judgements being made and enforced according to the rule book, they are made and enforced by the opinions of people that make up an unruly crowd…

…chaos and chaotic fighting will follow."
Ray Dalio
 
Cronk said:
a) there is no acceptable way to agree on what is probably true (e.g., there is no equivalent of instant replay in a sport) and…
b) both sides don’t trust the referees/judges because they believe that they are under the influence of the other side, and …
c) rather than judgements being made and enforced according to the rule book, they are made and enforced by the opinions of people that make up an unruly crowd…
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I think that's a very fair, well stated summary of the overall situation when it comes to so-called Facts vs. so-called misinformation, etc. etc.
 
moke123 said:
Or are they the GOP version of antifa?
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antifa doesn't exist. According to the Dems, they are a figment of our imagination. They are certainly not rioters and they don't kill people or burn police cars. That is what mis-information looks like.
 
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