Shootings in US schools (4 Viewers)

[qailoh]

In fairness to Rich, he didn't actually say he endorsed/condoned it, just that this was where the problem was.

Also in fairness to Rich, it was ColinEssex whose quote was advocating the carrying of illegal weapons for self defense. I figured as a recognized moral authority on this forum, his views were endorsed by his fellow countryman Rich. For the unpardonable gaffe of assuming that every single person from the same country shares the same views and fits the same demonstrated stereotype, I humbly apologize.

 

[Brianwarnock]

For the unpardonable gaffe of assuming that every single person from the same country shares the same views and fits the same demonstrated stereotype, I humbly apologize.

Now whom have I seen doing that before

Brian

PS not the apologising bit.

 

[Alc]

For the unpardonable gaffe of assuming that every single person from the same country shares the same views and fits the same demonstrated stereotype, I humbly apologize.

Quite right, too.
Bloody yanks - you're all the same

 

[dan-cat]

I wonder what happened in the Koreans life before tha age of 5 to make him get a gun in the US and blow peoples heads off in the US.(where he was a permanent resident) - or is this just a xenophobic racists attitude to blame the foreigness of the individual?

Looks like some consider a cause that he was picked on later than age 5 in the US for not being american enough for you -



http://education.guardian.co.uk/higher/worldwide/story/0,,2060762,00.html

Korean or Chink its all the same to the yanks right?

Looks like the opinion here that he was an alien, or a Korean and not American had troubled him before in his life!

You're hinging your whole argument on the principle that adult behavioral problems cannot be caused by a child's experiences before the age of nine. This is just nonsense.

Even thereafter he may have been bullied at an American school, which by the way, happens EVERYWHERE. Brits actually use a colloquialism derived from the racist term mentioned in your link and think nothing of it because it's so deeply embedded in your culture.

 

[boblarson]

PS not the apologising bit.

If I ever saw an apology for generalizing a population from our resident, 4-letter length poster, I think I'd drop dead of shock.

 

[Alc]

Brits actually use a colloquialism derived from the racist term mentioned in your link and think nothing of it because it's so deeply embedded in your culture.

That point's not strictly true. There are plenty of people who don't think anything of it, but, browing up, I was always taught it was virtually on par with using 'the N word'. Certainly my Chinese friends found it quite offensive.

 

[dan-cat]

That point's not strictly true. There are plenty of people who don't think anything of it, but, browing up, I was always taught it was virtually on par with using 'the N word'. Certainly my Chinese friends found it quite offensive.

Whoops sorry, I meant some Brits, my bad.

 

[Alc]

Whoops sorry, I meant some Brits, my bad.

I refer you to point #1763.

 

[Rich]

which by the way, happens EVERYWHERE.

Yes that may be so Daniella, but only in America does one seek revenge using a gun with the full backing of a centuries out of date scrap of paper

 

[Rich]

Whoops sorry, I meant some Brits, my bad.

No you see you're doing the American usual thing, totally twisting the facts and reality to fit a narrow American viewpoint whilst clutching at straws. The term Chinky as used in the UK refers to a meal or establishment, it's not used by the vast majority here to refer to a race. I'm sure we've explained all this to you before, I know you're American but please try and pay attention

 

[Rich]

If I ever saw an apology for generalizing a population from our resident, 4-letter length poster, I think I'd drop dead of shock.

Surely it's America that should apologise for the 4-letter word Bush

 

[Pauldohert]

You're hinging your whole argument on the principle that adult behavioral problems cannot be caused by a child's experiences before the age of nine. This is just nonsense.

Even thereafter he may have been bullied at an American school, which by the way, happens EVERYWHERE. Brits actually use a colloquialism derived from the racist term mentioned in your link and think nothing of it because it's so deeply embedded in your culture.

I fully understand the problems could have been caused before the age of 9 or that they could have occured after the age of 9. I took exception to the fact that it seems the blame has been shifted to a Korean with Korean upbringing.

As for the second part, again I think your trying to shift the attention somewhere else. Sure there is problems everywhere but its off the topic of what caused the Korean fella to do what he did.

If the US is going to continue with allowing guns it may be useful to have some insight into why certain individuals use them so tragically.

Its easier to think of him as a f88vking Korean nut I guess.

 

[Bodisathva]

I fully understand the problems could have been caused before the age of 9 or that they could have occured after the age of 9. I took exception to the fact that it seems the blame has been shifted to a Korean with Korean upbringing.

I believe it was the British contingent that began pointing fingers at nationality, there, Paul. Besides the background information of "resident alien" that happened to originate in Korea, I haven't heard anything accusatory with regard to race or nationality here. I have, however, responded to the tired old "American, blah, American, blah, blah" simply to prove a point, but I don't know that anyone really cares where he came from.

Sure there is problems everywhere but its off the topic of what caused the Korean fella to do what he did.

I don't think there is any question that the guy was mentally disturbed. What causes some people to break under certain circumstances and others to exit seemingly unfazed? In my completly unprofessional (and not so humble )opinion, he simply was not of strong enough character to cope with his environment. I don't understand why you continue to try and turn a personal shortcoming into a nation-bashing session. There are 301,814,381 people here, as of this morning...we're bound to have some nuts in the woodpile from time to time. Gimme a break already.

If the US is going to continue with allowing guns it may be useful to have some insight into why certain individuals use them so tragically..

He couldn't find a toothbrush

Its easier to think of him as a f88vking Korean nut I guess.

Excellent clinical diagnosis, Dr. Paul... works for me

 

[Pauldohert]

I believe it was the British contingent that began pointing fingers at nationality, there, Paul.QUOTE]

The first post I responded to was from Canada and it referred to the Korean. So I don't know where you get the above from.

Besides the background information of "resident alien" that happened to originate in Korea, I haven't heard anything accusatory with regard to race or nationality here. I have, however, responded to the tired old "American, blah, American, blah, blah" simply to prove a point, but I don't know that anyone really cares where he came from.

It was you that posted that he certainly was not american, and insinuated the cause of his problems happened before the age of 8 - and therefore the problems are Korean, isn't that what the quarterly journal was supposed to tell me?

I don't understand why you continue to try and turn a personal shortcoming into a nation-bashing session. There are 301,814,381 people here, as of this morning...we're bound to have some nuts in the woodpile from time to time. Gimme a break already.

There really is no nation bashing here - that I may be critical of gun laws, or can see maybe something in the US or Korea caused the fellas troubles doesn't equal nation bashing.

Try reading up in the journal for paranoia!

 

[Rich]

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There really is no nation bashing here -

That charge is normally reserved for Colin and me, you should be more thankful that you've joined an exclusive club

 

[Bodisathva]

Try reading up in the journal for paranoia!

nah...more cantankerous, really

 

[Rich]

.He couldn't find a toothbrush

Yes, we've always said that Americans don't need much of a reason to go in all guns blazing

 

[Brianwarnock]

um...that would be, to protect Americans from South Koreans, pay attention

This should add some fuel to the illegal/legal immigrant fire. Can't wait for that to start.

Post 1372 was the first time his nationality was mentioned.

Brian

 

[Bodisathva]

Post 1372 was the first time his nationality was mentioned.

which was in direct response to Rich's post, #1371 referring to protecting "Americans from Americans".

 

[Rich]

which was in direct response to Rich's post, #1371 referring to protecting "Americans from Americans".

Which again begs the question, just what does it take to be deemed American?